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If your that cold.....could be a safety issue. What if the lift stops for 30 minutes ...or.....you have some sort of injury and have to wait on an evac? I see way to many people who are wearin' as little as possible. Down, wool, mittens, hood on jacket are all good. I know they make ski "shorts" for the racer crowd. They zip on and off, and insulate ass from seat. Racers use them 'cause they wear those sweet onesy skinsuits!
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Coldest I've been to is -10ºC at BC interior mountains.

My setup that helped me that day from boots to helmet:
-Burton Imperials
-Smartwool socks
-Adidas 3/4 pants for soccer
-Foursquare 10K pants
-Underarmour ColdGear turtleneck fitted
-Fleece hoodie
-Analog Greed jacket
-Polar Buff necktube
-Neff Daily beanie
-Sandbox helmet
-Pow Stealth GTX gloves

Pretty toasty, and that survived a wind and snow storm at the top of the mountain when me and my buddies got caught in a whiteout.

Too warm for my local mountains though, so I shed the 3/4 pants for boxers and the UA Coldgear for a comfy yoga t-shirt.
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There are many quality technical downs you can get. Those will keep you warm for sure.

If you want to beef up your base/midlayer, go with the Under Armour base 4.0. That thing is a really warm base layer. Then throw a heavy mid-layer crew over that. Then your fleece hoody and insulated jacket. Bring a backpack with you. Take it off at the top of the run if you find that you get too sweaty during the run with all those layers on. Minor hiccup to deal with, but at least you'll be warm on the chair.

For socks, get the thicker Merino Wool variety.

For gloves, go with mittens (also available in down) and a thicker glove liner.

If you still freeze after all this... time to bring a battery powered space heater for the lift ha.


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I ride regularly in -20 deg C weather (-4 F) and sometimes colder. I do have a little extra insulation as part of my birthday suit which doesn't hurt!

Here's my outfit, only thing that ever gets cold for me is finger tips and toes.

1) H/H "dry" bottom base layer
2) Lululemon upper long sleeve base layer
3) Cheap ass firefly pants, they might be 10k rated but not likely
4) Thin smartwool socks, can't remember the brand, maybe "copper socks"
5) DEMON UPPER BODY ARMOR <-can't tell you how much this made me warmer... actually I can. With my winter jacket on I sweat on -20 days...
6) Ten year old "Planet Earth" winter jacket, if it's -10 or warmer I'm too hot and have to switch to a spring jacket/shell
7) face sheild/helmet/goggles/gloves (helmet has closable vents which is nice cause I work up a lot of heat on the way back down)

Hopefully you find something that works for you! The base layers are really important, then gear that is fully seam sealed/taped to block the wind. Close fitting stuff actually seems to make me warmer than loose stuff.
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I've rode a lot of -20 days this year and haven't been cold yet beyond a slight chill once in a while. I think the key is to keep your head, hands and feet warm and to properly ventilate when you get too hot. I wear:

- ninja suit baselayer (best thing ever).. I usually wear the hood up under my helmet if it's a cold day
- Analog Transpose 2 Hoodie
- 686 Smarty Cargo Pant w/insulated pant layer
- Holden Banks Jacket
- Burton AK Oven Mitt (these are the best ever! Fingers are never cold)
- Burton socks
- K2 Thraxis boots - my feet have never been cold in these boots yet
- Airhole masks, various other facemasks, balaclavas


If it's really, really cold like -22 I will throw on another light sweater under my hoodie.
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I've said it elsewhere and I'll say it again people who use and recommend UA gear haven't used merino or other high end baselayers like Patagonia capilene.

Fitted and compression baselayers may make you feel and look like a gym rat in the lodge, but I've seen the light with true outdoor brands and materials. Looser is not only warmer, it also won't bunch up. Plus the good shit feels amazing too.

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I've said it elsewhere and I'll say it again people who use and recommend UA gear haven't used merino or other high end baselayers like Patagonia capilene.

Fitted and compression baselayers may make you feel and look like a gym rat in the lodge, but I've seen the light with true outdoor brands and materials. Looser is not only warmer, it also won't bunch up. Plus the good shit feels amazing too.
I tried a pair of UA Coldgear pants, that cost $50. Sorry, but they were a rip-off and simply a load of shit. Every time I crouched down, they went straight down my ass! That defeated the reason I got them in the fist place- to stay in place. Starter literally sells the exact same thing for about $10. Why is it so much less? Because it doesn't have the UA logo on it.

Now I wear Starter compression shorts for underwear (really do stay in place) and some nice warm Starer sweatpants for the base layer... I've previously used the UA versions and these are just as good. Total cost~ $22. I can also just not wear the sweatpants on warm days.

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Based on all the snow clothes you're wearing, I would be sweating. Are you sure you're not enemic? Maybe you need more Iron in your body. Like yourself, I was in Tahoe last week, the Temps were -5 F. I had no base layers on, was only wearing an insulated 2L jacket with 15K insulated pants. I was fine! You might want to tell your doctor about it....
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Thanks for the help everyone!

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Based on all the snow clothes you're wearing, I would be sweating. Are you sure you're not enemic? Maybe you need more Iron in your body. Like yourself, I was in Tahoe last week, the Temps were -5 F. I had no base layers on, was only wearing an insulated 2L jacket with 15K insulated pants. I was fine! You might want to tell your doctor about it....
I actually am a little anemic, but not alarmingly so.

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Hopefully you find something that works for you! The base layers are really important, then gear that is fully seam sealed/taped to block the wind. Close fitting stuff actually seems to make me warmer than loose stuff.
I do think I need to invest in warmer base layers. I have a pretty thin top as a 1st layer, and I don't have base layer pants (though I just ordered that... hopefully that will help).

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