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Old 01-15-2013, 05:28 PM   #41 (permalink)
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So we bitch and moan about anything outside that range. LA, it's like 65-100.
Ha ha, it seems like the Californians who move here to Oregon bitch and moan about everything.

I hope you find a solution to your coldness!
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Old 01-15-2013, 05:29 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I've said it elsewhere and I'll say it again people who use and recommend UA gear haven't used merino or other high end baselayers like Patagonia capilene.

Fitted and compression baselayers may make you feel and look like a gym rat in the lodge, but I've seen the light with true outdoor brands and materials. Looser is not only warmer, it also won't bunch up. Plus the good shit feels amazing too.
I'll call your bluff. I have worn synthetics and merino. Though I love merino wool products, the fact remains that they are on par with UA pricing, but are far more delicate.

And you guys act like every single UA product is compression. Compression isn't for everyone.

For you to sit there and act like UA cold gear 3.0 or 4.0 doesn't keep you warm signals to me that you have not tried them.

Again, Merino is awesome. If you go that route, make sure you always wash with cold water on gentle cycle and hang dry. Never toss them into the drier.

UA haters are like Burton haters. People hate the brand more than they do the product.
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Old 01-15-2013, 06:24 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I'll call your bluff. I have worn synthetics and merino. Though I love merino wool products, the fact remains that they are on par with UA pricing, but are far more delicate.

And you guys act like every single UA product is compression. Compression isn't for everyone.

For you to sit there and act like UA cold gear 3.0 or 4.0 doesn't keep you warm signals to me that you have not tried them.

Again, Merino is awesome. If you go that route, make sure you always wash with cold water on gentle cycle and hang dry. Never toss them into the drier.

UA haters are like Burton haters. People hate the brand more than they do the product.
Cool I was hoping you would reply figured you have tried it all. I'll admit to being a UA hater It just comes off to me as one of those mainstream companies that has some definite functionality but mostly sells image, not unlike Apple which I have no love for either. I'm not afraid to admit that I'm biased or try to explain why.

Its not hard to imagine that it all works, I'm old like most of us, I remember wearing cotton longjohns hehe.

Yea the $$/durability issue with merino and even my patagonia stuff seems really delicate - is definitely easily overcome by other products.

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Old 01-15-2013, 06:37 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Cool I was hoping you would reply figured you have tried it all. I'll admit to being a UA hater It just comes off to me as one of those mainstream companies that has some definite functionality but mostly sells image, not unlike Apple which I have no love for either. I'm not afraid to admit that I'm biased or try to explain why.

Its not hard to imagine that it all works, I'm old like most of us, I remember wearing cotton longjohns hehe.

Yea the $$/durability issue with merino and even my patagonia stuff seems really delicate - is definitely easily overcome by other products.

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You know I have to chime in when called out like that haha.

We do agree though that Merino is always better. I just wear more UA stuff because it's not nearly as fragile.

UA just flat out works for me. I also like compression layers, not just from UA either. Nike's stuff is actually good too, but I refuse to give them my money lol.

I really do notice that I'm not as sore when I am wearing compression layers the next day.
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You know I have to chime in when called out like that haha.

We do agree though that Merino is always better. I just wear more UA stuff because it's not nearly as fragile.

UA just flat out works for me. I also like compression layers, not just from UA either. Nike's stuff is actually good too, but I refuse to give them my money lol.

I really do notice that I'm not as sore when I am wearing compression layers the next day.
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Part of the problem might be that you live in a moderate climate and just go up the mountain for a day/weekend. Your body doesn't have time to adjust to the colder temps. I grew up in Nebraska and worked outside my whole life, when it first starts getting cold it takes a week or so of sustained cold temps for me to get used to it.
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Got a compression shirt that just rides up my back all day, quite annoying.

The best thing about compression ... is when you get home and take it all off. Feels so damn good.
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Part of the problem might be that you live in a moderate climate and just go up the mountain for a day/weekend. Your body doesn't have time to adjust to the colder temps. I grew up in Nebraska and worked outside my whole life, when it first starts getting cold it takes a week or so of sustained cold temps for me to get used to it.
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You sissy Tahoe riders.

In Colorado we are dealing with negative temps. Like negative 17. This happens about once a year. It has been colder than Polar Bear shit for a while. I rode today and walked to the bus stop. My truck won't start. It froze.

I wear on cold days:

Skinny leg fleece PJ pants over my regular base layers
base layer shirt
another light layer
wool or acrylic sweater.
good quality jacket and snowpants
I wear mittens with touch screen cheapo gloves
sometimes I keep a handwarmer in my pocket
I have a light polyester stretchy balaclava. Balaclavas stay in one place.
Then I drink Irish coffees

Mittens are warmer, my light mittens worn with cheapy knitted gloves with a hole in them are warmer than these fancy puffy gloves I have.

I also lap the gondola!
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You know I have to chime in when called out like that haha.

We do agree though that Merino is always better. I just wear more UA stuff because it's not nearly as fragile.

UA just flat out works for me. I also like compression layers, not just from UA either. Nike's stuff is actually good too, but I refuse to give them my money lol.

I really do notice that I'm not as sore when I am wearing compression layers the next day.
I agree I used to rock mostly capilene or merino but that stuff is definitely delicate. I actually use a synthetic base layer from Eastern Mountain Sports called Techwik. Similar to UA they have three versions T1 to T3. The T3 and maybe a fleece vest or puff vest is enough to keep me toasty up on northern VT or Maine. Definitely more durable stuff compared to merino.
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