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Old 02-18-2013, 09:45 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Firstly, that guy who yelled at you sounds like hes a fu***** a**whole.

But, aside from that you have to realize something.

Lets say you were going heli skiing in march and wanted to buy a sick HD Camera, if it werent for the masses who dont need them and yet still buy them the camera would be less awesome and would probably cost over twice as much.

By increasing the demand for the cameras, they are lowering the price of the cameras for people riding the steep and deep or sick terrain park features and therefore the popularity of these cameras is good for the sport.

On a sidenote, last year in utah i used my go pro on the epic pow days we had (30 inch freshies on the last day of the storm, while i had bronchitis, it felt like a marathon pushing myself out of the snow after i fell). I still watch the videos because it just gets me so pumped for this year (going in march again).
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:53 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Cecil B Demiel's bullshit yelling at you not withstanding,.. I'm NOT commenting on the OP's motives or attitudes surrounding his dislike of the use of GP camera's on resort groomers,.. cuz I don't know what they are.

However, the questions that followed about "Why does this bother people,.." etc.!! That I will comment on!! I have noticed, in this sport, like a lot of other action or extreme sports there seems to be an "Elitist" attitude that shows up in some circles!

When I was living in SoCal & into rock climbing, I was often ridiculed or laughed at because I only did top roping or some free climb bouldering instead of multiple pitch lead climbs up El Cap!!! (...try talus running sometime!!) [look it up!] I was even shunned by some climbers because of my military climbing/rope training and because I liked to rappel off cliffs just for fun! (...yet I'll bet a lot of those "Elitists" can't tie their own swami seat harness from a 6ft length of rope or do a body rappel without a harness or carbiners if they had too!!) I've rappelled out of helicopters & even done an Aussie" rappel,.. Once!!

Some extreme Kayakers I've encountered believe I'm a pussy little dilettante because I'm only interested in maybe a little class 1 or 2 white water on my recreational river paddles instead of class 4-5's with 50 ft. waterfall drops!! I can do an eskimo roll and a wet exit or recovery! I don't want to have too tho!! I'd rather just enjoy the river!

I do wish I had some GP footage of Those activities! And while I may look like an idiot on my little local hills with my GP on my helmet or rigged to my bindings, I can go back & see just how much my riding has progressed since I started two years ago. (...I no longer walk around asking people "Is the light On?" thank goodness I learned that much!)

I have also used that footage to help other NooB's who think that they're not progressing fast enough after 4-5 times on a board!! (...thanks to all you guy's who post about "Ripping Down Black Diamonds" your FIRST day boarding!!!) ...never seems to be any GP footage of THAT!!

Also,.. My riding is progressing and getting better! I'm Riding more difficult terrain, learning new tricks and techniques! Riding different boards now! Sometime soon, I want to get out to one of those Big Mountain Powder resorts! When I DO?? You can Betcher Ass... I'll have My GP with me, and I'll know what angles work, which don't, and how to get the most out of the camera & experience!! ...Even if you discount having a record of your riding progression,.. I practice snowboarding on my home front, local, less difficult terrain!! WHY shouldn't I practice using the GP????


BTW, I never really got the whole Zip Line thing going on now at resorts!! I don't "Get" the whole WoW!! This is so exciting, extreme, cool, etc.!!

Why??

Because I've done Zip lines when I was in the service! I did them 25-30 ft in the air without being harnessed or tied into anything! Just a "T" bar handle a pulley & my "KungFu Grip" to keep me on it!!!!!! First 40-50 ft. was over land with a cargo net stretched under it if you fell! I also had to let go of the pulley and drop 15-20 ft. into a 10 ft. wide ditch filled with muddy water, (...and occasionally snakes!) preferably before slamming into the pole at the end of the line!
Now THAT was extreme!!! But, You're not going to catch me telling these kids & their parents that they are "Pussy Little Dilettantes" cuz they're strapped in and safe when they run these ziplines at resorts!! It's safe(ly) exciting and extreme! I let them have their fun!!

If anyone reading this is one of those elitists,.. go ahead & laugh!! Shake your head, cluck your tongue at the stupid Gappers but honestly,.. STFU and go ride your extreme backcountry POW and let the Gappers have there fun inbounds!!!! They're not hurting anyone & they're providing you with entertainment and an excuse to feel superior!!!!

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Old 02-18-2013, 10:58 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Alright, someone tell me why everyone and their dog is riding with one of these things strapped to their heads or a broken ski pole. Honestly you are inbounds on a groomer, WHAT do you need to film and rewatch? I ripped through the trees at Sunshine and some guy who was coasting yelled at me "You ruined my shot"....really?

I just dont understand the draw of these at all. I get it if you are hitting urban features and doing something sweet, or if you are on a heli/cat and riding some steep and deep.

What am I missing? For the price of these things ($300) what is the benefit? Do you analyze your riding/does it help you improve? I am not trying to hate, just trying to understand why they are so popular....

Pretty ignorant.. I too am one of "those" who ride with it on a pole AND on my helmet. I love snowboarding and when it comes to editing videos and mixing them up, thats great fun too. Also works great for my wakeboard,cliff diving, rc's and my trail rides.
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:18 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I ripped through the trees at Sunshine and some guy who was coasting yelled at me "You ruined my shot"....really?
I would have wait for him down the slopes and tell him to fck off. I also have a gropro with me when i hit the slopes but i don't yell at people telling them they ruined my shots, that's just dumb.
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Old 02-18-2013, 01:28 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Alright, someone tell me why everyone and their dog is riding with one of these things strapped to their heads or a broken ski pole. Honestly you are inbounds on a groomer, WHAT do you need to film and rewatch? I ripped through the trees at Sunshine and some guy who was coasting yelled at me "You ruined my shot"....really?

I just dont understand the draw of these at all. I get it if you are hitting urban features and doing something sweet, or if you are on a heli/cat and riding some steep and deep.

What am I missing? For the price of these things ($300) what is the benefit? Do you analyze your riding/does it help you improve? I am not trying to hate, just trying to understand why they are so popular....

No different than why people take pictures/videos anywhere else.

Go look at all the youtube videos taken with Go Pro. This isn't just limited to snow sports. People like to watch/re-watch themselves/friends/families doing stuff and I'm sure there are some who do it to show off what they can do.

No biggie. Nothing really to get upset about.
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Alright, someone tell me why everyone and their dog is riding with one of these things strapped to their heads or a broken ski pole. Honestly you are inbounds on a groomer, WHAT do you need to film and rewatch? I ripped through the trees at Sunshine and some guy who was coasting yelled at me "You ruined my shot"....really?

I just dont understand the draw of these at all. I get it if you are hitting urban features and doing something sweet, or if you are on a heli/cat and riding some steep and deep.

What am I missing? For the price of these things ($300) what is the benefit? Do you analyze your riding/does it help you improve? I am not trying to hate, just trying to understand why they are so popular....
A lot of these people are on trips as well. Imagine watching it 10 years from now. Especially with a family member or friend who is no longer with you.

For some it's a hobby. People ask me why I snowboard. They don't get it. You go up, and you slide down.
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The ones who make those statements most likely slid down on their face. That's why they don't get it.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:53 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I have to agree with chomps. I think its an "elitist" thing. Who cares if it doesnt effect you. GPs and such take really good video and people get stoked watching themselves have fun. The elitist thing comes in because as you progress, the pedestrian level video and photos that you used to think were BA, are kinda boring now. Its like a tolerance to awesome. I personally have hundreds of pictures I took throughout the course of my various hobbies that I'll admit are pretty mundane when I look at them now. But I couldnt wait to develop the film or upload them as soon as I took them back then. Its the elitist dickhead who lets less "hardcore" people bother them.

The one thing that kind of bothers me though is that Youtube is oversaturated with less than stellar videos and when you are want to kill some time watching people do cool stuff you have to sift through the BLAH. Comeone guys, if you are riding off a 2 foot boulder, dont title it "Craziest cliff drop ever"!
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:17 PM   #30 (permalink)
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To be clear, I am not an "elitist dickhead", nor did i call gopros "stupid"...

I am actually toying with the idea of spending my hard earned dough on one of these, BUT the amount of garbage edits ive seen out there make me think they cannot be worth it at all for someone like me who rides inbounds on my days off regardless of good or more often than not average to bad conditions.

I completely am on board using these like some posters have said, on big trips with your friends or family (especially if you have kids) to take some good memory shots, to have someone follow you and correct your form.

For those of you who ride with them, how many days do you ride a year? Do you take your gopro each time? (not trying to be arrogant!! just wondering if its something you have and use all the time, or only take it out on specific days, with groups or alone, etc.)
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