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StrattonRider · 02-18-2013, 08:08 PM

i am looking for some help with pole jam 180 out. Can you give me some tips

Pole jam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k--EsFl5B-U

crew edit 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqKkP-7iHGA

EatMyTracers · 02-18-2013, 08:08 PM

Video is private.

StrattonRider · 02-18-2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by EatMyTracers

Video is private.

i think i just fixed it

nzshred · 02-18-2013, 11:43 PM

You're going too slow first of all. Start by hitting it 50-50 with more speed so you're landing further away. Pick that speed up so you don't land so flat.

The rotation is all about being able to turn the upper body while keeping the lower body staying in a straight line. But basically you are just going to slowly rotate the body as you come onto and up the rail. As always, speed is going to make this easier. You can see in your video you approach the rail already rotated, and thus you try to swim it round with your arms. Practice 180's on the flat ground and popping off flat feet, not from an edge, focus on that rotation from the core.

Now that you've got the speed and rotation, when you ride up the pole, bend your knees as you come off to unweight the board and make that spin easier. Keep the knees bent and absorb the landing, in turn helping you land even and not blow out your edge and fall over.

StrattonRider · 02-19-2013, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by nzshred

You're going too slow first of all. Start by hitting it 50-50 with more speed so you're landing further away. Pick that speed up so you don't land so flat.

The rotation is all about being able to turn the upper body while keeping the lower body staying in a straight line. But basically you are just going to slowly rotate the body as you come onto and up the rail. As always, speed is going to make this easier. You can see in your video you approach the rail already rotated, and thus you try to swim it round with your arms. Practice 180's on the flat ground and popping off flat feet, not from an edge, focus on that rotation from the core.

Now that you've got the speed and rotation, when you ride up the pole, bend your knees as you come off to unweight the board and make that spin easier. Keep the knees bent and absorb the landing, in turn helping you land even and not blow out your edge and fall over.

when i get to the bottom of the lift i usually through a flat 1 or sometimes even a flat 3. i can easily spin. next time i go up i will approach with more speed. thanks

Extremo · 02-19-2013, 06:37 AM

When I frontside spin I come into the pole like I would a mellow front 180 ride straight up it but let my shoulders rotate as I would a spin. Same way with back 180's. Come in from the left of the pole on my toe edge, flat base it up the rail, and let my shoulders continue to turn. It makes it fluid and easier to progress to 360's off.

StrattonRider · 02-19-2013, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Extremo

When I frontside spin I come into the pole like I would a mellow front 180 ride straight up it but let my shoulders rotate as I would a spin. Same way with back 180's. Come in from the left of the pole on my toe edge, flat base it up the rail, and let my shoulders continue to turn. It makes it fluid and easier to progress to 360's off.

ok i will try that. thanks

slyder · 02-19-2013, 02:50 PM

What I see is when you land you are facing straight down the hill, shoulders open. That is when you crashed. The ones towards the end that you landed you were in line with your board shoulders closed, you landed and rode off fairly cleanly.

nzshred · 02-22-2013, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by StrattonRider

when i get to the bottom of the lift i usually through a flat 1 or sometimes even a flat 3. i can easily spin. next time i go up i will approach with more speed. thanks

Just because you can easily spin, doesn't mean you have good technique doing it -in your video you're using your shoulders and arms a lot, a good spin comes from the core. And if you're doing ground 3's you shouldn't really be struggling with 180's off a pole.

Spinning fs off jib features is closer to frontside off the toes on the ground, so practice them, but also practice with a flat base as you can't launch off an edge on a feature, for obvious reasons.

StrattonRider · 02-22-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by nzshred

Just because you can easily spin, doesn't mean you have good technique doing it -in your video you're using your shoulders and arms a lot, a good spin comes from the core. And if you're doing ground 3's you shouldn't really be struggling with 180's off a pole.

Spinning fs off jib features is closer to frontside off the toes on the ground, so practice them, but also practice with a flat base as you can't launch off an edge on a feature, for obvious reasons.

I will try fs of my toes. It feels different when you are spinning off flat base

02-18-2013, 08:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
StrattonRider -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Wall, NJ and Stratton, VT Posts: 156	Pole Jam help i am looking for some help with pole jam 180 out. Can you give me some tips Pole jam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k--EsFl5B-U crew edit 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqKkP-7iHGA Last edited by StrattonRider; 02-18-2013 at 08:12 PM.

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slyder Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Milwaukee Suburbs Posts: 1,922	What I see is when you land you are facing straight down the hill, shoulders open. That is when you crashed. The ones towards the end that you landed you were in line with your board shoulders closed, you landed and rode off fairly cleanly. __________________ Thanks -Slyder

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02-18-2013, 11:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
nzshred Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 71	You're going too slow first of all. Start by hitting it 50-50 with more speed so you're landing further away. Pick that speed up so you don't land so flat. The rotation is all about being able to turn the upper body while keeping the lower body staying in a straight line. But basically you are just going to slowly rotate the body as you come onto and up the rail. As always, speed is going to make this easier. You can see in your video you approach the rail already rotated, and thus you try to swim it round with your arms. Practice 180's on the flat ground and popping off flat feet, not from an edge, focus on that rotation from the core. Now that you've got the speed and rotation, when you ride up the pole, bend your knees as you come off to unweight the board and make that spin easier. Keep the knees bent and absorb the landing, in turn helping you land even and not blow out your edge and fall over.

02-19-2013, 06:37 AM	#6 (permalink)
Extremo -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NH Posts: 3,112	When I frontside spin I come into the pole like I would a mellow front 180 ride straight up it but let my shoulders rotate as I would a spin. Same way with back 180's. Come in from the left of the pole on my toe edge, flat base it up the rail, and let my shoulders continue to turn. It makes it fluid and easier to progress to 360's off.