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Old 03-06-2013, 06:23 PM   #21 (permalink)
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^ that and also this...

Who the fuck cares... I mean is there somebody out there thats seriously not getting enough performace out of a hot wax and scrape that they need to spend the extra time and money to hot box the board?

I wax and scrape my board in less than 5 minutes...
Yes, there are actually people out there that notice the difference between a hot box treatment and an iron wax. Mostly at the professional level, ever wonder why Shaun and Kelly's boards are faster than everybody else's? Hot boxing boards has been standard practice for professional skiers and snowboarders for years. Every Olympic medal, most X-Games halfpipe and boardercross medals and many other podiums are dominated by boards that have seen a hot box.

Is it something that the average snowboard needs, nope. Is it bad for your board, nope. Will it be better in the long run for your board, maybe- depends on the base quality.

I will say that every board I have hot boxed holds wax longer than any of my boards that haven't been boxed. I usually use Base Prep or warm wax when hot boxing. Then apply whatever wax the day calls for after that.
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I took my board out today and notice a huge difference in the performance of the board. The sauna technique did do a better job of filling the scraches on my board, lasted longer and worked a lot better.

If some one has an old board they should give it a try and we can get another opinion. If an iron is not going to destroy a board with direct heat hotter then a sauna I don't think 10 mins in a sauna will do anything.

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Just to prove that it's retarded, I'm going to shave a little wax into a dish, and take it in the sauna with me next time I'm having one. It won't melt!

The other reason it's retarded is, it would take a lot longer to wait for the sauna to heat up, than an iron, and there would be no way to drip wax onto the board in the first place in the sauna...

THIS WHOLE FRICKIN IDEA IS JUST RETARDED!!!
Go ahead and bring a plate of rub wax on the sauna and let me know. I am a lifeguard and have a sauna where I work so there is need to wait for a sauna to heat up or pay the electric bill.
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Even if the temp is not high enough to drip the wax it was high enough to give the wax enough viscosity to work itself in to the base.
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Old 03-06-2013, 08:40 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Second, I'm sure your board does look great after a rub on wax sauna or no sauna... but it will be gone after one run becuase thats all rub on wax is good for.
Disagree

I use the rub-on wax method when I'm too lazy to hot wax and it lasts a good part of the day and I ride crap conditions.

The problem is, most people don't put in the work required to make rub-on wax effective. It's extra effort, but still less than hot waxing. The most important step in the rub-on method is CORKING. And you have to put elbow grease into it to create a good amount of friction heat. Structure like normal with a scotchbrite and you're good to go.

I use Bluebird wax for both methods. Love the stuff. Lasts a long time after hot waxing. Lasts pretty good as a rub-on.

Oh, and I always use the rub-on method for touch-ups between hot-waxes. Works well.
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:07 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Hot waxing with an iron would be a more concentrated heat source to open up the pores. I would imagine the amount of time a board has to sit in sauna would be pretty long, but I guess if you're tight on time, you can add board waxing to your sauna session lol.
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But how will the board absorb solid wax? The wax needs be melted to absorb into the pores. The iron serves a dual purpose, heat the p-tex/open the pores as well as melting the wax to allow it to absorb. Hense the reason a cold rub on wax only lasts one run, it does not absorb because it is a solid.
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This is the MOST effective way to prepare and wax your board. As far as longevity, no wax job lasts as long. The pores in the base stay "open" for a few hours as opposed to the five minutes you are waxing with an iron. The best technique is to iron wax the board, leaving A LOT of extra wax on the base. While the board is still hot from the iron place the board in the hot box and let that stuff "soak in." After a few hours most if not all of the wax will be absorbed into the base. The next step is to simply put a light, condition specific, wax on top and scrape.
Bullshit, bullshit and more bullshit - snowboard bases do not have pores and do not 'absorb' wax in this way. When will people stop posting this garbage?
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Disagree

I use the rub-on wax method when I'm too lazy to hot wax and it lasts a good part of the day and I ride crap conditions.

The problem is, most people don't put in the work required to make rub-on wax effective. It's extra effort, but still less than hot waxing. The most important step in the rub-on method is CORKING. And you have to put elbow grease into it to create a good amount of friction heat. Structure like normal with a scotchbrite and you're good to go.

I use Bluebird wax for both methods. Love the stuff. Lasts a long time after hot waxing. Lasts pretty good as a rub-on.

Oh, and I always use the rub-on method for touch-ups between hot-waxes. Works well.
Are you really saying applying elbow grease with run on is easier than a hit wax?
are people really that thick headed to think waxing a board, with an iron, is that hard?

You don't have to use elbow grease, the iron melts the wax and helps it absorb.

Oh say you missed a spot, rather than rub your deoterant stick all over your board. Melt some wax over it, wax on wax off, maybe push it on the sides a bit.


If you truly really think rub on wax is significantly less work than a traditional iron you've got more problems than not keeping up on the slopes
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Are you really saying applying elbow grease with run on is easier than a hit wax?
are people really that thick headed to think waxing a board, with an iron, is that hard?

You don't have to use elbow grease, the iron melts the wax and helps it absorb.

Oh say you missed a spot, rather than rub your deoterant stick all over your board. Melt some wax over it, wax on wax off, maybe push it on the sides a bit.


If you truly really think rub on wax is significantly less work than a traditional iron you've got more problems than not keeping up on the slopes
I rub on the wax, cork it, and structure a bit and I'm done. Takes a few minutes. I don't drip the wax, melt it, wait for it to dry, scrape it, polish base, structure it, then clean up the mess.

This is an hour process though I get a 15-30 min break while base cools off after ironing.

You have to be thick headed to think its as easy or nearly as easy of a process than rub on and corking.

No elbow grease? What's scraping home boy? That is elbow grease. Corking is much easier than scraping and you don't have shavings to clean up.

Nice try on the condescending comment though.


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What's with all the douchey attitudes around here lately? Can't have a discussion without someone making a dumbass assertion like that someone is "thick-headed" for not agreeing with their opinions.
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I wax and scrape my board in less than 5 minutes...

5 mins? Does that include the time taken to drink a beer? I'm pretty sure it's officially considered part of the waxing process...
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5 mins? Does that include the time taken to drink a beer? I'm pretty sure it's officially considered part of the waxing process...
I drink mine while waiting for the base and wax to cool off before scraping.
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