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Old 03-08-2013, 03:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Snowboarders... better learn to surf, skate, or move to Alaska... (global warming)

"We are seeing temperatures increase at a rate not seen in at least 11,300 years, researchers say"

Story is here - Global warming is epic, long-term study says - CNN.com

Doom and gloom predicted!
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In 1970s it was Global Cooling, now it's Global Warming? Rofl.
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Since it's CNN, I kind of doubt the validity of this. And since they're just throwing numbers around, I'd like to see that paper and whether it's accepted anywhere.

No, I'm not saying we should do nothing about it. I'm also not saying we should freak out. But they seem to be kind of undecided about whether it's a natural cycle or something caused by humans. I'd like to see a conclusion in this lifetime...
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Since it's CNN, I kind of doubt the validity of this. And since they're just throwing numbers around, I'd like to see that paper and whether it's accepted anywhere.

No, I'm not saying we should do nothing about it. I'm also not saying we should freak out. But they seem to be kind of undecided about whether it's a natural cycle or something caused by humans. I'd like to see a conclusion in this lifetime...
I don't work on climate change directly, but I study a plant pathogen that is being influenced by climate. From the point of view of a scientist, there is no real argument as to whether climate change is happening (it is), caused by humans (it is), and a 'bad thing' (it is).

There is plenty of argument as to how big the effect will be, but FWIW I don't expect to have to give up snowboarding within the foreseeable future.

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Since it's CNN, I kind of doubt the validity of this. And since they're just throwing numbers around, I'd like to see that paper and whether it's accepted anywhere.

No, I'm not saying we should do nothing about it. I'm also not saying we should freak out. But they seem to be kind of undecided about whether it's a natural cycle or something caused by humans. I'd like to see a conclusion in this lifetime...
The natural oscillation cycle takes roughly 14,000 years so drop that excuse.
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The earth could cool down again eventually, but the natural system of the earth just can't keep up with the temperature rise. If you just slow it down, then the earth will catch up and it will cool down again. (It has something to do with absorbing CO2 in rocks or something, when it's hot, this process goes faster, so the earth comes back to it's balance, but it needs time to do so)
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I don't work on climate change directly, but I study a plant pathogen that is being influenced by climate. From the point of view of a scientist, there is no real argument as to whether climate change is happening (it is), caused by humans (it is), and a 'bad thing' (it is).

There is plenty of argument as to how big the effect will be, but FWIW I don't expect to have to give up snowboarding within the foreseeable future.

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I'm not a doom and gloom guy, but if you pay attention to nature in general, she always gives you hints and tips as to what's going on. For instance, flowers that usually bloom around June & July are now blooming around April & May. Birds migrate later than usual. Nature is designed to ensure its own survival.

I don't pay attention to much, if ANYTHING at all, to government funded or government agencies when it comes to ANY subject! For one, how can you truly validate their information/statistics. For two, they are masters at creating problems for the sole purpose of pushing certain agendas. And three, money, money, money...I cannot tell where government starts and corporations end.

Just my $.02 cents.
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It's a real, accelerated by man, and not good!

The problem is we just move the pollution around. The US/Canada shouldn't be allowed to buy any products made by companies who do not have to follow the same EPA regulations as companies here in the US. Same goes for any country that is trying to curb the issue.

Alerts to stay indoors in China and Mexico, nasty polluted rivers in 3rd world countries - 10 Ugly Rivers of the World | ZuZu Top
Yet we continue to buy products from these countries on the regular. Companies move to places to get away from the regulations so they can run the operations cheaper and get to spend next to nothing on payroll as a bonus.

Ever been outside of a resort area near costa rica or the like? Go for a bus ride, it's common practice to just throw your trash out the window into the beautiful rainforest. It's disgusting but normal down there. It's pretty trashy outside of the resorts, you'd be shocked!

There's not much anyone can do about it. Greed and 7 billion + people alive, forget about it!

Atleast we have Snowboarding and Futurama to keep us entertained.

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