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thinking of visiting my bro in portland again too, i see that all the hills out there have 2 weeks or more after we close
Yesterday I was told by a long time instructor at Meadows that he heard they were planning to stay open to June based on spring riding attendance I'll believe it when I see it.

According to their reporting they lost 3" overnight, and considering they got considerable snow last week the place looks bare. I don't remember where they were last Sunday morning but it had to have been up in the 115-120" range.

Today they were at 106" at opening. They lost another 2" today last reported at 6:30pm.

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Not seeing anything about sordo or zordo teflon on the google. Having trouble figuring out how wiping the base first would help. Does it bond to wax or something?
The only thing I could think was that if you wipe the Teflon on first, then heat the base up, the Teflon would melt in with the wax to the pores.

Just what I was told.

Sorry, I spelled it wrong. Here's a link - Zardoz NOTwax - Advanced Base Treatments
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The only thing I could think was that if you wipe the Teflon on first, then heat the base up, the Teflon would melt in with the wax to the pores.

Just what I was told.

Sorry, I spelled it wrong. Here's a link - Zardoz NOTwax - Advanced Base Treatments
Thanks. Definitely report back on how it goes if you use the teflon first method.
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interesting, i just remember Zardoz as an awful film in the '80's, haha
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Zardoz is good stuff in the spring. Didn't realize the did wipes now or that the stuff was still around actually. Is it the brillow pad wipe that you just fill or do they have sheets now?

The rub on waxes work pretty good in spring conditions too.

Also, for spring riding rocker profiles work much better than flat base or camber under the feet. It's that less surface contact thing again.
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Zardoz is good stuff in the spring. Didn't realize the did wipes now or that the stuff was still around actually. Is it the brillow pad wipe that you just fill or do they have sheets now?

Looks like wet wipes to me: Zardoz NOTwax - Single-Use NOTwax Speed Swipes

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The product I used was a wet wipe. Used the same wipe 2x.
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Had a textbook faceplant over the weekend. The snow was pretty fast for the temp as long as it was groomed or tracked out. I managed to find some wet, untracked snow when I was trucking. As soon as I touched the snow, I went over the handle bars. I was airborne for 2-3 feet before my face softened the impact. Slid on my face for a while before coming to a stop. Had to climb up ~10 feet to retrieve my sunglasses stuck in the snow. On the chairlift up you could see a 5 ft long trench that my face carved. Thankfully it was below the chairlift and I was wearing this so at least I looked cool.

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Anytime you are riding warm spring snow or our high water content maritime snow, high Flouropolymer content wax is what you want. Fluropolymer is naturally slippery and more importantly repels water. It's this thin layer of water that makes the snow "sticky" through surface tension.

Almost all standard ski and snowboard wax is low Flouropolymer because in cold, dry snow the Flouropolymer actually makes the base "sticky". Another reason most waxes have a low Flouropolymer content is because its ridiculously expensive. Racers will often use 100% Flouropolymer for the fastest possible speed. A small one inch square cube of the stuff typically costs around 100 bucks.

Using the wipes on a nice dry base prior to waxing gets all that nice 100% Flouropolymer into the base. Then, as you wax and rub that wax around with a hot iron, you infuse your wax with high concentrations of Flouropolymer effectively giving you a high flouro wax which lasts the whole day. I like to do this with the OBJ Black Magic to get the benefits of both graphite and high flouro!
Interesting. So should we mix the zardoz with the OBJ blackmagic and our regular all temp wax,

or should I mix the zardoz with the OBJ blackmagic slush wax?

Looks like the regular black magic is an additive, while the blackmagic slush is a standalone wax. I saw on anohter forum where they Felix'd the zardoz with the blackmagic slush and got great results.
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SPRING SLUSH!!

just make sure you've got the right wax on!....saw a lot of people out there today who....didn't, LOL

...and this is one instance where flatbasing may, sometimes, be slower
So I just got a brand new board still in plastic with one last weekend to ride. Do you guys think it needs to be waxed for slush, or will the factory wax be fine?
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