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post #81 of 112 (permalink) Old 04-22-2013, 05:45 PM
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Thanks for linking Mike's write-up, Killz.

Just saw the airbag post - yes, I also never use all the belts on my ABS going up. Food for thought... But I do attach the handle, the velcro holster seems to do a good job to prevent accidental deployments.

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It does depend on the one you have. ABS uses the velcro strap to secure it, mine is an RAS system and the handle is zipped up in my shoulder strap when not in use mode. Either would be hard (impossible in my case) to deploy when secured in their own fashion if caught in an avalanche
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I think an airbag will work well if you are at the crown of the avalanche and go with the flow. Standing beneath it as the chunks of snow come hurtling at you, an airbag wont do much to save you.
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^ We're just speculating here.

The only survivor at Stevens last year was hit by the avalanche while waiting her friends, in the trees. Wasn't at the bottom, but definitely not at the crown either. She managed to deploy. I think it may help to deploy even at the bottom - if just to create some cushion and space around you...

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I put some thoughts down on this but it hits so close to home I don't think I'll ever be able to convey what I'm thinking. Like I said earlier we lost some great people and the event is a tragedy. Let this serve as either a wake up call or a reminder to just be cautious out there, I know I've slacked and been on the lucky side to come home. I won't let that complacency ever effect me again.

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Mike is an acquaintance of mine from my Colorado trip this year, him and Gary were the first two I thought of when I heard about this accident. I feared the worst when I heard one who died was a local Jones rep (I knew Mike was a Jones rep). His first hand account is pretty hair raising. I hope I never have to be in his position.

Between this slide and the one near Vail Pass earlier, I'd be scared shitless to be out in the CO backcountry right now. How ridiculously big and DEEP both went shows that deep slab instability. Everyone wants that late season pow day, but that heavy spring pow on top of everything puts a lot of stress on those weak buried layers. Two weeks ago I found myself thinking that we dodged the big bullet this year, no Tunnel Creek-like incident, no avy deaths here in WA. In two weekends between WA and CO, that all changed.
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Transworld Biz just put a little something up on the other avalanche on Vail Pass. Memorial Service For Vail Pass Avalanche Victim & Industry Member Mark McCarron This Thursday | TransWorld Business

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Our executive Director Shan Sethna and Lead Avalanche Instructor Justin Peacock have put down some thoughts about this tragic accident and how we can collectively move forward.

http://berthoudpass.org/2013/04/24/o...ning-together/
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CAIC's report on the accident is up.

https://avalanche.state.co.us/acc/ac...05&view=public
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CAIC's report on the accident is up.

https://avalanche.state.co.us/acc/ac...05&view=public
That was a chilling read.
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