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I don't mind the gapers per se even. It is the massive numbers of expert bro brah skiers and crowds and general disney feel.

Hurry and wait in line and hurry and wait and hurry and spend spend spend and wait and spend and hurry and everyone is very wired and stressed out on getting the fun in and it just gets all gnarly.

Its the sheer volume of people they drive.

Its about time they got into Utah it was like their final frontier ffs.
THIS for damn sure.

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Well there's a little more to Utah than meets the eye from what I've heard. Talisker is trying to get Solitude and if they win which they more than likely will against PCMR they'll have three resorts there. Lease that to Vail while owning the land and they can build that Tram from Park City to Solitude or Snowbird then that combines the two canyons. By doing that they can start the conquest of doing a Utah pass.


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I remember Vail back in 1999 I could their house from here, and it's on fire.
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I remember Vail back in 1999 I could their house from here, and it's on fire.
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He's talking about the year those environmentalist freaks burned the one lodge down.


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a little harsh but understandable, I personally support direct action and being concerned with the state of where we ride, but I found the ELF target in this manner to be a little misguided.
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I'm sorry should I have said those fucking whack jobs with their shitty agenda that failed miserably at what they were intended to do and got caught?


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Okay, didn't want to make this a debate, but if you look at other organizations using direct action for other world issues and not call them "whack jobs" is straight up treasonous in comparison to the historic radical revolutions of our past. Now what makes ones agenda "shitty" and another worthwhile? Is it because the "shitty" agendas don't have instant or any recognition, or is because one deals with non-people issues?
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If you didn't want to make this debate maybe you shouldn't have responded? Simple logic would deduce that. But you opened that door so here we sit.

There's a way to get things done without coming across as a fucking eco whack job. I'm all about forest preservation and helping the environment but burning down a building sitting in the middle of a forest that could have caught on fire, probably not the smartest or best way to do it. Didn't help their cause, plus they got caught. Let alone they didn't go after something as it was being developed, it had already been done. If you're going to stop something you need to do it before it happens not after the fact. Once again simple logic.


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I'm all about forest preservation and helping the environment but burning down a building sitting in the middle of a forest that could have caught on fire, probably not the smartest or best way to do it.
See I can agree with that and this was my main concern. Radical tactics are a bit dodgy but there have been so many more action that go on. There was a lot of letter writing, protest, and boycotts before someone decided to bring the thunder which shows that aboveground methods only go so far. I actively participate in educational awareness concerning such issues, I've even been arrested myself for doing non-confrontational activism, but when nothing is being done frustration comes to mind and action will follow. To counter Mainstream media that uses blanket definition and incorrect use of the word "terrorist" when reporting direct action just look at the deaths of activist. No one can call ELF/ALF "terrorist group" when no one is being killed except for the activist themselves.
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