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Vail resorts now has the Canyons in UT

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Are the acquisitions ever going to end? :dunno: I would've thought that BA would be a little less than pleased about the news that, "the empire is expanding."

I like that at least this expansion is half the distance to me than the other ones at Lake Tahoe but I'm still not sure what to think yet.

I got the RMSP+ last year and I'm going to get it again this year so I suppose It wont effect me too much. Maybe this will help drive more crowds to the Vail resorts and leave other areas in the state just a little less crowded.
 
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Think about it like this. They bought those two shithole resorts in the Midwest and then I think they have something in the old country aka the East. Offer up a pass with expanded value that's still cheaper than their current passes. Now they can travel to three states. Spread them out in the snowiest areas, pick up some real estate, control the food/bev and lodging and you monopolizes peoples vacations.

Am I happy about it? No but do I like shredding in Utah? Yes. It makes having a place to stay in PC more accessible if I don't have to go try and get comp tickets from their marketing department/friends.

Vail is an evil corporation though and Rob Katz can go fist fuck himself with a razor bladed glove.
 
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They bought those two shithole resorts in the Midwest and then I think they have something in the old country aka the East.
I went to Mt Crescent in Iowa this year for opening day...I didn't know anything about it before going and had never been there. I was shocked to find out that Vail resorts owned it. Never really did figure out why...I guess they are just trying to use it as a marketing platform to the Omaha area.
 
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Went to Utah a couple months ago, we didnt go to The canyons because it was 105/day. Atleast I can ride there free for our trip.

It's pretty awesome to hit Vail/BC and Powderhorn on the way to and from Utah. How is The Canyons compared to Brighton and Snowbird? I really liked it there. I'm assuming they atleast have a nice park?
 
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The thing that sucks is that if you are done with buying into Vail resorts, the more shit they acquire, the less places there are to visit with a local vibe and reasonable day lift tickets.

I don't want to have to buy into it but they make it so juicy. FUCK!
 
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To hell with Vail. I have no desire to go to their resorts and fight the gapers while parking in the EPIC parking lot before using my EPIC pass to get on the EPIC lift to ride the EPIC run then stop to eat an EPIC burger and drink an EPIC beer before finishing my EPIC day in the EPIC park then share it all using EPIC mix while I fight the EPIC traffic back home.

Ugh.
 
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I fully understand that they keep the industry alive and I appreciate the money they bring in. I just don't want to deal with them. Hence why I stay the hell out of Summit and Vail during the season.

Also, just for irony's sake, I would like to point out that you saying, "You should probably shut the fuck up with putting them down and thank them" is probably the most ironic and hypocritical thing I've seen anyone type in my entire life. Is there ever an hour that goes by that you don't blast some poor newbie on this forum for asking a question that you see as being below you? Most of the time they're just trying to get info on how to spend their money to support the industry. I'm not hating on it, I'm just pointing out the irony and hypocrisy of what you just typed.
 
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After visiting more and more resorts, I like vail that much more. The only place my family and I enjoyed more this year was Jackson Hole. The past two seasons I saw Taos, silverton, all of eagle/summit county resorts, Revelstoke, wolf creek, steamboat, north star, powder horn and probably one or two more I'm forgetting.....

I like high speed quads, gondolas and very well groomed runs (when the pow is crusty). I enjoy nice places to chill and BBQ while on the mountain. I like paying $650 for a pass to a buttload of terrain. I like living on the mountain.... I like tracking my days and vert.
 
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I want someone to slap me if I ever complain about having unlimited access to over 10 mountains for under $700. It's $500+ for access to one hill on the east coast and $1,000+ for any of the decent Vermont ones. Throw some beers and food in your trunk and you don't have to pay their gouging prices at the mountain.
 
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I don't mind the gapers per se even. It is the massive numbers of expert bro brah skiers and crowds and general disney feel.

Hurry and wait in line and hurry and wait and hurry and spend spend spend and wait and spend and hurry and everyone is very wired and stressed out on getting the fun in and it just gets all gnarly.

Its the sheer volume of people they drive.

Its about time they got into Utah it was like their final frontier ffs.
 
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I don't mind the gapers per se even. It is the massive numbers of expert bro brah skiers and crowds and general disney feel.

Hurry and wait in line and hurry and wait and hurry and spend spend spend and wait and spend and hurry and everyone is very wired and stressed out on getting the fun in and it just gets all gnarly.

Its the sheer volume of people they drive.

Its about time they got into Utah it was like their final frontier ffs.
THIS for damn sure.
 
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Well there's a little more to Utah than meets the eye from what I've heard. Talisker is trying to get Solitude and if they win which they more than likely will against PCMR they'll have three resorts there. Lease that to Vail while owning the land and they can build that Tram from Park City to Solitude or Snowbird then that combines the two canyons. By doing that they can start the conquest of doing a Utah pass.
 
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Okay, didn't want to make this a debate, but if you look at other organizations using direct action for other world issues and not call them "whack jobs" is straight up treasonous in comparison to the historic radical revolutions of our past. Now what makes ones agenda "shitty" and another worthwhile? Is it because the "shitty" agendas don't have instant or any recognition, or is because one deals with non-people issues?
 
#29 ·
If you didn't want to make this debate maybe you shouldn't have responded? Simple logic would deduce that. But you opened that door so here we sit.

There's a way to get things done without coming across as a fucking eco whack job. I'm all about forest preservation and helping the environment but burning down a building sitting in the middle of a forest that could have caught on fire, probably not the smartest or best way to do it. Didn't help their cause, plus they got caught. Let alone they didn't go after something as it was being developed, it had already been done. If you're going to stop something you need to do it before it happens not after the fact. Once again simple logic.
 
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I'm all about forest preservation and helping the environment but burning down a building sitting in the middle of a forest that could have caught on fire, probably not the smartest or best way to do it.
See I can agree with that and this was my main concern. Radical tactics are a bit dodgy but there have been so many more action that go on. There was a lot of letter writing, protest, and boycotts before someone decided to bring the thunder which shows that aboveground methods only go so far. I actively participate in educational awareness concerning such issues, I've even been arrested myself for doing non-confrontational activism, but when nothing is being done frustration comes to mind and action will follow. To counter Mainstream media that uses blanket definition and incorrect use of the word "terrorist" when reporting direct action just look at the deaths of activist. No one can call ELF/ALF "terrorist group" when no one is being killed except for the activist themselves.
 
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Seeing as how every mountain is already outrageously expensive anyway, does Vail buying them make them worse?

That would be cool if they only snatched up similar resorts. Like Heavenly, and Northstar. Already expensive. If a Resort went from $55 lift ticket to $100 because of Vail I can see the harm in that.

But if Vail snatches up all the $100+ lift ticket places already, and then offers you an epic pass across those resorts, hell that's kind of enticing. But if they get a monopoly and then jack the prices up than fuck them. They'll watch as more people just stay home.

If they snatched up mammoth I'd buy an epic pass asap. Tahoe, Mammoth, Ut and Denver.
 
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If they snatched up mammoth I'd buy an epic pass asap. Tahoe, Mammoth, Ut and Denver.
I seriously thought Vail was going to snatch up Mammoth, probably still part of their master plan.
It maybe happening... "At the Mammoth Lakes Town Council meeting this evening, MMSA CEO Rusty Gregory just announced that in 2-3 weeks someone else will be running Mammoth Mountain and it won't be him. More on this as the story develops." Per The Sheet news feed on FB last night.
 
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