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The people who created Alpine Replay have a new project called "Trace"

Details are here: Trace collects your kick, push, coasting metrics, shares them on social media

It sounds interesting, but I'm really curious how much detail they can get from just GPS and inertial sensors. That is, will it really be able to accurately reconstruct someone's board's complete motion in three dimensions?

I could also see it becoming annoying if everyone is sharing every single run on Facebook or Twitter, but that's not really a knock against it, just human nature (e.g. long boring GoPro videos). I suppose I'm one to talk, I'm sure I've been guilty of similar, at least with friends and family...
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These guys hit me up to promote them. It's just another bullshit thing that doesn't need to exist.


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These guys hit me up to promote them. It's just another bullshit thing that doesn't need to exist.
Their app is great, but I agree. Maybe for skating or surfing this is needed but the app is more than enough while boarding.
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I'm skeptical about the claims that it'll be able to know which tricks you do and how well you landed them, especially when you start mixing in the variety of ways to rotate as well as rail tricks.

I'm betting that feature is going to be highly unaccurate and useless.

If this gets made I just hope it doesn't lead to people spamming my feed with useless stats like "I did 4 runs today and my longest air was 0.8 seconds! Check out my statsheet at uselessstatsnoonebutmecaresabout.com"

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I'm skeptical about the claims that it'll be able to know which tricks you do and how well you landed them, especially when you start mixing in the variety of ways to rotate as well as rail tricks.

I'm betting that feature is going to be highly unaccurate and useless.
Well, their old app was supposed to track the number of jumps and air time. It logged me as having made several small jumps. Even logged 2+ sec. of "air time!". You can Imagine my surprise since I was still a bit freaked and not trying even small ollies n shit yet!!! Definitely not any jumps!

I like the gps maps of the runs, and I like the speed and vert. functions but yeah,... Don't hold out hope for much accuracy! Lol!

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Recon & Mod Live cannot even get accurate airtime on there goggles using GPS, accelerometer, and all the other shit that they have in there goggles... Like i would drop money on something that has no use to me while i am using it...

At least with the goggles, i can read text, see next track, view my helmet camera, see how fast i am going and what the time is... Haha

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I'm skeptical about the claims that it'll be able to know which tricks you do and how well you landed them, especially when you start mixing in the variety of ways to rotate as well as rail tricks.

I'm betting that feature is going to be highly unaccurate and useless.

If this gets made I just hope it doesn't lead to people spamming my feed with useless stats like "I did 4 runs today and my longest air was 0.8 seconds! Check out my statsheet at uselessstatsnoonebutmecaresabout.com"
I would not rule out the possibility that they get the data recording right/accurate enough.
But I really question the relevance of said data. Part of the appeal of board and action sports to many people is the experience of the ride, as opposed to the pursuit of measurable performance.

I am a big fan of statistics and data in general and this thing might be useful tool for learning/practice, but are we going to measure our riding and maybe even somehow quantify our performance or experience. I just do not see the point of sitting around after riding talking about how many 1s and 3s I have landed on a particular run. Are people really 'competing' on Alpine Replay for fastest top speed on runs, etc.? Seems to me that would get old really quickly...
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I would not rule out the possibility that they get the data recording right/accurate enough.
But I really question the relevance of said data. Part of the appeal of board and action sports to many people is the experience of the ride, as opposed to the pursuit of measurable performance.

I am a big fan of statistics and data in general and this thing might be useful tool for learning/practice, but are we going to measure our riding and maybe even somehow quantify our performance or experience. I just do not see the point of sitting around after riding talking about how many 1s and 3s I have landed on a particular run. Are people really 'competing' on Alpine Replay for fastest top speed on runs, etc.? Seems to me that would get old really quickly...
Oh I agree things like fastest top speed are kinda 'meh'. I don't care how many runs I did, how fast I went or what my max airtime was that day. I never use any of those stat tracking apps since I always find all their stats useless.

What I'd be all for is to be able to just ride and enjoy my day, which usually involves working on an assortment of tricks, then go home and see which tricks I favour, which I screwed up on a few too many times, which spin directions I lean towards etc. etc.

That sort of data would let you know exactly what tricks you need to work on, where your weaknesses lie, where holes in your overall riding could be, where you could round out your skillset and more. Something like that would be great just for tracking overall progress in your riding.

Sadly I doubt this (or any device really) would be able to do that accurate though, since it would have to be able to tell the difference between a large range of rail tricks, flips etc that are way too similar in terms of just measuring x/y/z movement.

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I must admit, I'm nerdy enough that I kinda like the idea, if it works. Not so much for what they are hyping it for (sharing with friends), but just to measure my own progression. I've never actually tried Alpine Replay, but I use Google Tracks occasionally to check my top speed. Again, not to compare with friends, but to track my progress.

Of course, Trace will probably be ridiculously expensive and that'll completely kill my interest.
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