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09-05-2007, 12:35 PM
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something to think about
Why is riding switch called riding switch and not riding fakie?
When riding switch snowboarding we are simple riding backwards... the tail of the board is in the front and the nose is in the back. Now in skateboarding this is riding fakie because you are just riding backwards. To ride switch in skateboarding the nose of the board is in the front and the tail is in the back but, you change your stance. So if you ride regular you would switch to goofy.
So why when snowboarding do we consider it riding switch when we are simply riding backwards. Unless you're riding a twin tip board and your stance angles are the same for both feet why wouldn't we have to physically change our binding stance around to truely ride switch?
Note: I'm just putting this out there as I was skateboarding long before snowboarding(been doing both for a long time) to see what other people think about this. And so you now I call it switch too.
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09-05-2007, 12:52 PM
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I have heard this argument before and I think you are correct technically. I think the term switch just sort of became the term. When I was first learning, the book I bought never used the word switch. it was`nt untill I got out on the hill and talking to riders that I discovered that switch was the prefered word. On a directional board, riding fakie is actually more difficult than riding truly switch as you point out. This all due to sidecut shape and setback. Intersting point.
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09-05-2007, 01:29 PM
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but in skateboarding isn't switch and fakie 2 different things? switch is riding off hand (right foot forwatd if you're regular) and riding fakie is riding left foot forward if you're regular and having your left foot positioned on the front kicktail and right foot between the trucks?
know what i mean?
or am i wrong?
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09-05-2007, 02:28 PM
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I kind of look at it this way; there seems to be a lot of push to make snowboarding like skateboarding. While both board sports they are still not the same thing. I mean, I've heard from a lot of people that skateboarding was the father of snowboarding which is just a weird thing to state (snowskating and street style park features, absolutley). Surfing is certainley the nucleus for our way of life and boardsports like skateboarding, longboarding, snowboarding, wakeboarding, skimboarding, and the like are all in their own genre. So terms that are used in skateboarding may not always, nor they must, pair up with snowboarding. Some skaters do get bent out of shape when we interchange switch/fakie but hey, we aren't skateboarding here 
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09-05-2007, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by palidon11
but in skateboarding isn't switch and fakie 2 different things? switch is riding off hand (right foot forwatd if you're regular) and riding fakie is riding left foot forward if you're regular and having your left foot positioned on the front kicktail and right foot between the trucks?
know what i mean?
or am i wrong?
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Originally Posted by intake
When riding switch snowboarding we are simple riding backwards... the tail of the board is in the front and the nose is in the back. Now in skateboarding this is riding fakie because you are just riding backwards.
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saying the same thing just worded different.... snowboarding switch = skateboarding fakie
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I kind of look at it this way; there seems to be a lot of push to make snowboarding like skateboarding. While both board sports they are still not the same thing. I mean, I've heard from a lot of people that skateboarding was the father of snowboarding which is just a weird thing to state (snowskating and street style park features, absolutley). Surfing is certainley the nucleus for our way of life and boardsports like skateboarding, longboarding, snowboarding, wakeboarding, skimboarding, and the like are all in their own genre. So terms that are used in skateboarding may not always, nor they must, pair up with snowboarding. Some skaters do get bent out of shape when we interchange switch/fakie but hey, we aren't skateboarding here 
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very true... However, a lot of the terms used in snowboarding stem from skateboarding.
And like I said in my first post I use the term switch all the time when I'm snowboarding and have nothing against it. I'm simply wanting to hear peoples opinions on the subject. Or maybe I'm just bored at work and looking to stir the pot a bit and see what spills out... 
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09-05-2007, 04:31 PM
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yeah since i skated 6 years before turning to the snow, i kinda call switch fakie all the time.
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09-05-2007, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by intake
saying the same thing just worded different.... snowboarding switch = skateboarding fakie
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no, from what i'm saying switch skateboarding and switch skateboarding are the same. fakie skateboarding and switch snowboarding are 2 different things. think fakie position, not stance.
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09-05-2007, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by palidon11
no, from what i'm saying switch skateboarding and switch skateboarding are the same. fakie skateboarding and switch snowboarding are 2 different things. think fakie position, not stance.
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Am I the only one who is getting a little confused by this statement??? 
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09-05-2007, 05:06 PM
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maybe i'm wrong. i'd make something in ms paint but i'm too lazy/am lacking time.
when i think fakie i think of the foot position i'd be in for a nollie.
i have a hard time explaining things but theres 4 kinds of ollies, the ollie, the switch ollie, the nollie and the switch nollie. you'd go into fakie position (left foor forward being regular) to pop a nollie, and right foor forward to pop a switch nollie.
maybe i just suck at skate terminology.
Last edited by palidon11 : 09-05-2007 at 05:10 PM.
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09-05-2007, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by killclimbz
Am I the only one who is getting a little confused by this statement??? 
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