killclimbz

Well it seems that the restroom is well on it's way to being built
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/a...0&d=1188358860
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/a...1&d=1188358860
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http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/a...3&d=1188358860

This is definitely needed. No trash cans and porta potty's the last few years leave a lot to be desired considering the usage of that area. I believe the lot is going to also be paved. Not sure if the restroom or the lot will be finished for this season.

Snowolf

who manages that land? is it National Forest, BLM or State? Or is that a D.O.T. project as part of the highway? All of the above are experiencing funding problems with so much of the federal budget going to "other things" We are getting a lot more access and user fees both in Arizona and here in Washington.

killclimbz

It's forest service. User fee's are a big worry there. The forest service swears up and down that is not going to happen. Vail Pass has the recreation fee program going on. Part of the reason is that there have been so many conflicts between human powered and motorized users. There are several areas on the pass that motorized traffic is not allowed but is frequently invaded by 'bilers. Also, human powered users would use trails that were main thoroughfares for sledders. The fee was instituted there in part to pay for rangers to patrol the area, which they do.
Berthoud Pass is a designated wilderness area. No sleds allowed. So if anyone has a sled there they are pretty much being blatant about it and stand a good chance of getting caught in the middle of the season. Late season violators do pop up and they are quite reckless. That is why I now carry a "disposable" lock in my pack.
The forest service fee could pop up, but right now it seems unlikely.

mpdsnowman

Didnt I see porta potties at the entrance parking lot???

And where does the mutt piss

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killclimbz

I should have said the porta potties and no trash removal...
Yes, you are right there were porta potties on top of the pass.