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Old 06-27-2009, 08:33 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Thank you!! dont know why people always tell you to lift weights. You don't need heavy ass weights to snowboard you'll get big, heavy and slow. Now light weight training could help, but concentrate on doing cardio lots of it since you will need as much stamina as possible. work on your core(midsection), legs and back(lower). try to be as flexible as possible.
First off, I agree with most of you that spending a lot of time weight training will not be nearly as beneficial as endurance/core/balance training. I would like to clear up some misconceptions though.

Getting big and heavy will not make you slow. It will make you Fast as Fck (reducing quickness and manuverability for tricks however).

Heavy Ass Weights is a relative term. Muscle fibers are recruited in order by size. First the Type I fibers (slow twitch / endurance), then as load increases Type II a & b (fast twitch / power) are used. The latter do not fully come into play until (1) your slow twitch fibers tire out, like the last few reps of a set, or (2) when using about 90% of maximal effort, like heavy squats, box jumps, or something explosive. If you never train around the 85+ % effort range, you will be far less explosive off of jumps, etc than your potential.

Lifting in the 85+ % effort range would be a weight you could probably do 5 or fewer times. Lifting in this range trains your central nervous system to recruit all muscle fiber types at once. This makes your body much more efficient at using the muscle it already has. Training in this range also causes the body to grow more contractile protiens (actin and myosin) which make you stronger.

Lifting in the mid-rep range (10-12 reps), like bodybuilders, causes you to grow more muscle mass, but less contractile protiens (aka funtionless size). This is part of the reason you see many 225 lb bodybuilders that can only bench in the mid 300lb range but 225 lb powerlifters can lift in the upper 400 lb range or more (even though the power lifter has a higher bodyfat %, which means less actual muscle mass) (it also has to do with knowledge of proper form and leverage).

In summary, lifting heavy weights will condition your nervous system to be more efficient and build useful muscle. As long as you follow a healthy diet you don't have to put a ton of size on.

Food for thought young grasshoppers
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Old 06-27-2009, 11:08 PM   #12 (permalink)
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So, I have had a LOT of private msg's on this subject over the last few days. Instead of sending stuff to indivdual people, I think I am just going to post a more in-depth (but also quasi-basic) intro to proper nutrition and exercise on here over the next few weeks. I may move the powers that be to make it a sticky, too. I'll also request feedback from knowledgeable people about the best ways to convey the information. Topics I intend to cover are:

I. The Hard Truth
a. You have to bust your ass and make some real sacrifices to get in shape.
b. The importance of consistency, motivation, and realistic goals.

II. The Big Three
a. Food Consumption
b. Cardio
c. Weight Training

III. Refference Material
a. good food to eat
b. bad foot to eat
c. model work out routines
d. other books you should buy / read
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IV. Just Ride
a. You're not Mr. Universe
b. Stop taking this shit so seriously
c. How does the 7 days of partying per week and downing 12 litres of vodka every night fit in with your cardio and core muscles and whatever?
d. It's a snowboard, not a marathon
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Old 06-28-2009, 07:23 AM   #14 (permalink)
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IV. Just Ride
a. You're not Mr. Universe
b. Stop taking this shit so seriously
c. How does the 7 days of partying per week and downing 12 litres of vodka every night fit in with your cardio and core muscles and whatever?
d. It's a snowboard, not a marathon

QFT....

Why is it that we humans always seem to take recreation; IE something that is meant to be fun and even relaxing, and turn it into work and stress?????

I am just going to go riding and actually have fun doing it.
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Old 06-28-2009, 07:49 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I offered to give someone some basic info about proper nutrtion and excercise. Since then I've gotten quite a few PMs. The truth is, there are people on this forum who have some unhealthy lifestyles. They want to do something about it. I would applaude those people, rather than than harping on them like some other seems to be doing.
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Old 06-28-2009, 05:46 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Not a thing wrong with that...was just being sarcastic and making an observation that very often we will take something that is meant to be fun and relaxing and turn it into work.
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Old 06-30-2009, 09:19 AM   #17 (permalink)
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exercise doenst have to be work, i used to go to the gym after school with a mate of mine and we would just work out and have a couple laughs. good times.

besides, building strenght also helps with injury prevention , and everyone can use that

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The only reason i want to get in shape more for next season is that so i can do MORE snowboarding...start of last season i could only go 3-4 hours before my legs gave out. As the season progressed i slowly was able to go a full 6-8 hours or so..and it was the bomb..not having to sit in the lodge nursing my wounds or always arriving at home super limping sore...and now theres the possibility of getting some BC experience with Snowolf next year if he doesn't run off to AZ...so gotta get in shape for all that hiking!
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Old 06-30-2009, 07:02 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Hiking is the best for that; keeps the legs built up really well and works the cardio. I try to alternate each summer weekend between rafting (upper body) and hiking. Next weekend if the weather holds, I am going to climb Mt. Adams again and snowboard off the top. My last attempt resulted in a bad case of unexpected AMS (altitude sickness) and puking for half a day.... Hit me without warning and I did`nt make the summit; turned around at the 11,000 foot level and got to lower altitude ASAP.

I think I am going to be here for at least another winter and will be working at Meadows again.
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biking, running, weights, i really disagree about the whole muscle= less flexablilty cause it is just not true... people that goto the gym most likely stretch daily and are much less liekly to get injured than some one that does not lift and hence probably does not stretch. just don't get top heavy, keep it even... don't work out just for boarding so that you turn out with like massive legs and not being able to bench over 80lbs, it just looks wierd lol
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