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Old 11-14-2013, 12:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Tips for carving?

Whenever I'm going down a trail, I end up going way too fast. But whenever I try to carve, either my board bites into the snow and I fall, or I lose my balance. But I don't skid my turns. Usually I just resort to going straight until I get too much speed, and then braking falling leaf style every few seconds. So lame.

Any tips for carving?
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Carved turns don't slow you down, you come out of them faster than who you entered them, a well carved turn is edge all the way through, like a skate blade, and you'll gain speed unless you're already really flying.

You need to learn to do a skidded turn to scrub off speed.

Those falling leaf turns are a step in the right direction, you want to link those to then smoothly scrub off speed and have a nice rhythm. Practice on shallower slopes.

Aspire to carving once you've got the skidded turn dialled in.
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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First tip if no one is helping you in person and physically showing what to and not to do is TAKE a lesson or two. That will change everything for you.

You are bypassing the basics. Its similar to building a house, the foundation/basics are what you build you house/technics on.

The first thing I teach people are heel edge and toe edge. Take full runs in a toe edge only building confidence and edge control, then the same for heel edge. NO straight lining no passing this step until its locked down. In your edge (both edges) focus on these few things. Keeping the down hill edge up off the snow or it will catch and you fall. Keeping your knees bent and springy. Pivot your hips and use the full width of the run to go left and right. And last is speed control, learn how to control how fast you are going and practice stopping. If you learn how to stop then you will have less fear and will progress faster.

Next is J turns.

but you really should take a lesson.
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Whenever I'm going down a trail, I end up going way too fast. But whenever I try to carve, either my board bites into the snow and I fall, or I lose my balance. But I don't skid my turns. Usually I just resort to going straight until I get too much speed, and then braking falling leaf style every few seconds. So lame.

Any tips for carving?
Yeah, it sounds like what you're trying to do is not carving, but skidded turns. Rather than trying to tell you how to do it online (where it'll likely be lost in translation!) I'd say it's best to take a lesson from a good instructor.

A lesson every 5-10 days on the hill can really help you improve.

What you need to be able to do is get comfortable controlling speed while turning.

This isn't a bad video for what you should be roughly aiming for. The main thing is, knees bent, keep the edges up, and slide that edge instead of trying to CARVE at this point.

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^^what they said, time to backtrack

i'm impressed that you made it this far with out serious injury

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Old 11-14-2013, 12:57 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Carving Lesson for Snowboarders - YouTube

I like this one more
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I like this one more
That's great for carving, but the OP mentioned either going straight or doing the falling leaf. I think she (he?) needs to learn how to turn before worrying about full on carving!
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Old 11-14-2013, 06:51 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Oh lol, gonna be honest i just read the thread title
Well regardless this is what you want to start progressing to.
I notice a lot of people get stuck in just turning and forget to transition their way back a bit to sink into it.
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That's great for carving, but the OP mentioned either going straight or doing the falling leaf. I think she (he?) needs to learn how to turn before worrying about full on carving!
Agreed. Carving is not an easy skill and requires good handling of the board. It makes sense to focus on dynamic skidded turns before trying carving.

Based on OPs description it looks like they have substituted speed for balance. If your balance is not particularly great, increasing the speed can make some people feel more comfortable. Try making the slowest carved turn possible on a green run and try and hold your balance, it's tough.

Back to the OP. Stop trying to bomb every hill and go back to the basics on an easier run then your normally ride. Work on developing solid dynamic skidded turns like in the video. Post back with more specific questions then 'why can't I turn when I am always bombing the hill'.
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I'm not sure if you're talking about carving or skidded turns, but since others already talked about skidded turns, I'll do a quicky post on carving here.

So just start off slowly and ease into it, but don't be frustrated if it doesn't work out perfectly right away, it's a tricky skill to really master.

It sounds like right now you might be digging your edge in too much (hard to tell without video, but it's an educated guess). There's an exercise called 'gas pedals' which you might want to try out.

Basically think of your feet as the gas pedals of a car and your back foot always follows after the front foot. So just like in a car, you don't slam your feet down on the gas to go right? You gradually step into it. That's what you want to do for carving.

So to carve toeside, you'd start by gently applying pressure to your toeside edge with your front foot, your back foot would follow, then only increase the pressure to your toeside IF you want to increase how much you turn. Same goes for heelside turns except you gradually take your foot off the pedal.

You don't need to apply much pressure to carve. Just gentle, gradually applied pressure is enough to ride on that edge and carve and only increase the pressure if you want to turn more sharply.

Now as far as being able to carve while turning sharply, that's going to be a tricky skill to perfect. I know pro level riders who still suck at carving, so don't feel bad because tight, sharp carves take time.

For now though, you can work on and get more comfortable with doing mellow carves and just gently riding that edge to get a feel for how you ride when you're just on your edge and gradually progress to sharper carves with more practice as you get more comfortable with riding that edge and controlling edge pressure.
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