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Help with side gap rails

I can do ride on rails or boxes with a several different slides and feel that I am ready to do a side gap rail.I was wondering if any one has any tips.
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The main mistake people make with hopping onto rails/boxes from the side is they try to jump too high to try to hop onto the very top of the rail.

The trick is you don't have to do that. Pop gently as you approach from the side and aim to land slightly lower down on the rail. By doing this you don't actually have to pop very high because where you end up landing on the rail is often the same height as your take-off.

That's the main thing. Besides that it's a lot like ride on rails, except getting your line right is a little more tricky (you have less margin for error since you aren't hopping on from straight in front). Remember all your basic ride-on rail technique such as trying to line up with the end of the rail, keeping your eye on the end etc.

When you advance even further to round rails it'll also add another level of difficulty because you have to land slightly at an angle against the rail and use ankle flex to avoid just hopping on and sliding straight off the other side.

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A little trick I've learned is to start on small down rails by gapping to the landing, this warms you up for the gap to the rail and you get to feel what the landing is going to be like. Then gap over the rail, this gets you familiar with speed you'll need to get over and onto it.

Like Jed said, a common mistake is to try and jump onto the rail at the top. You really want to be aiming down the rail. Jumping up onto it is dificult because it's hard to get your tail over without clipping, which turns to disaster. Coasting out down the rail will put your board over the rail naturally. And after you've gotten comfortable gapping to the landing and over the rail, it won't seem as scary to jump on and slide to the landing.

But remember, start small.
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A little trick I've learned is to start on small down rails by gapping to the landing, this warms you up for the gap to the rail and you get to feel what the landing is going to be like. Then gap over the rail, this gets you familiar with speed you'll need to get over and onto it.
I'm at this point too, and have done some small street style rails.

Sorry for the noob question but what is gapping to the landing?
I assume jumping from the take off over the entire rail if it is a short one?

Is it best to carry a fair amount of speed. I know for my ride on's I've been practicing more and more speed. Going slow sometimes is not the best

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Pretty sure he means gapping from the take off to the landing along side the rail, just airing beside it so you can see how much height you have and get a feel for where you would land on the rail.

I think having some speed is always good, it might be scarier but it gives you more balance on the rail and for the most part falling hurts less becuase you have some momentum, you might not even land on the rail but past it... going slow you just slam straight down on top of it and it's never good.
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Yeah it just means gaping from the take off to the landing. I do it just to get a feel of the maximum speed it would take to clear the rail.

As a general rule I've found it's better to gap too far down the rail, and only slide the end, than it is to come up short and clip it at the top.
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thanks for the replies guys. I really appreciate it. Also what slide should it try first?
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50/50s is always the safe one to start with, then you can move to presses and boardslides.

With getting started, I'd recommend not just gapping to the landing, but also try gapping over the rail a few times to get a feeling for the take-off and speed.

So you can basically just ride into the rail with more angle than you'd normally take and just jump over the rail (eg - if you come in from the right, gap over the rail and land to the left of the rail). This lets you play around with speed and just get comfortable with airing onto the rail.

Once you're ready to try it for real and land on the rail, you just adjust your line to come in with less angle again.

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So for me it's easier to backside boardslide than it is to 50-50. I also have a skate background so that may be why. For others boardsliding may be a little scarier.

When 50-50'ing onto a rail, you have to know how to get up over it, and catch it at an angle from the side to stop from rolling over it (or sliding sideways and catching an edge), which I find to be a little more difficult than it is jumping onto a rail in the boardslide position.

It also helps to learn this stuff on fat round rails with only a slight downward pitch. There is more surface area to catch the rail with your board which reduces room for error, and you can really get the feeling of rolling onto the top of the rail.

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