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Old 12-10-2013, 10:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I cannot seem to get my turns tighter instead I make wide ones that take me time and concentration to make. Also they aren't too smooth its more like I bleed speed doing them on purpose before completing the linking of the turn.

I am not comfortable with speed, steep, or narrow terrain because I don't feel in control. How do I improve this?

I go on the bunny hills just to feel better although its boring for me now and I want to get on the greens. I can do some greens that are not as steep or narrow perfectly fine. I have gone boarding over 10 times now in the Poconos, Stowe, and Colorado. Learned the most from one day at Stowe thanks to the soft snow! Went in November to Colorado so I had to deal with icy conditions that were still not as bad as the Poconos at their best.

Sadly the Poconos are my backyard so I have to improve here and trips to Vermont while 3-4 hours away are hard for me. I am going to Blue Mountain today but I am expecting it to be icy despite the snow. My butt is not ready!

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Old 12-10-2013, 10:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Private lesson. Spend the money now and have fun sooner.
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Old 12-10-2013, 10:46 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Private lesson. Spend the money now and have fun sooner.
I took one at camelback and they seemed to not help me much. My guy just got me linking my turns and didn't really offer helpful advice. Any suggestions on a good place to get lessons in the Poconos? I am going to try to tighten the turns today on the slopes. All it takes is one bad fall for me to stop pushing my limits though. And with the icy conditions here any fall is a bad fall

Today is my first day back on the slopes since last season. Hope I retained a lot from last year!

I try to fall on my ass but sometimes I catch my edge and end up face planting or flying backwards and smashing my head. Good thing I have a helmet!
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I am not comfortable with speed, steep, or narrow terrain because I don't feel in control. How do I improve this?
Take more lessons, ride more steep and point it...get comfortable with speed. Last time out, I spent abt 2.5 hours with this 66yr old, his 4 time snowboarding. By then end he was pointing it down bunny and a narrow blue 12' wide cattrack...he had a lot more control...he was stoked.
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Shift center of gravity downhill more, don't be scared. More front foot. Lessons with a GOOD instructor. Less back foot. Bend knees. Ride, ride, ride.

I'm still working on tightening mine more myself and am trying to follow this same advice. It works, just not overnight. Patience, persistence, perseverance, positive attitude. The "4 P's" as my uncle taught me in on my first elk bowhunt out west.
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I took one at camelback and they seemed to not help me much. My guy just got me linking my turns and didn't really offer helpful advice. Any suggestions on a good place to get lessons in the Poconos? I am going to try to tighten the turns today on the slopes. All it takes is one bad fall for me to stop pushing my limits though. And with the icy conditions here any fall is a bad fall

Today is my first day back on the slopes since last season. Hope I retained a lot from last year!

I try to fall on my ass but sometimes I catch my edge and end up face planting or flying backwards and smashing my head. Good thing I have a helmet!
How long was the lesson? You could ask if anyone knows a good instructor in the northeast section on the forum.

Do you have friends that ride? After I stopped failing, my friend told me just to follow him all day. He knew my skill level and pushed me out of my comfort zone (but no too far) and that really helped me progress.

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Assuming you are regular footed. Try initiating your heelside turns by shifting your forward knee toward the front of the board. Because your front foot is on an angle, this will flex the board and engage the sidecut. For your toeside, shift your leading knee toward the tail of the board and press your shin against the tongue of the boot, down toward your toes.

In addition, people who lack the ability to ride dynamically are often keeping their legs static or locked out the entire time. Get lower, flex those knees actively extending the board into the turn and contracting out of it.
You'll notice more experienced riders doing the same thing when they get tired.
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Not all instructors are equal. Keep trying till you find a good one! Also, if it was a group lesson, try springing for a private lesson or two! This way, all of the instructors attention is focused on "your" needs. Not split amongst a group of 5-20 people!
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Old 12-10-2013, 10:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I went today and WOW! JUST WOW! I totally conquered the blues today by doing it without falling and doing it faster every time. I am going again this weekend and going to Vermont the weekend after to Killington! I have a feeling I am going to improve ALOT in just these 2 weeks. I have noticed I am doing the typically newbie move of putting my weight in the back foot. Any advice on how to correct that?

I am not used to bumpy terrain either and on this blues they were a LOT of bumps. I am not sure if they were moguls but it wasn't groomed very well in certain areas. It didn't cause me to fall I just dodged most of them and went over some of them. How does one feel stable hitting these at fast speeds? I bent my knees anytime I felt like things were feeling unstable. Someone mentioned feeling your shins against your boots?

Also I noticed a little heel lift that might be delaying my turns and causing some stability issues. I guess I have to tie my shoes tighter, with some adjustments it improved. I have a really big big toe and its smashed into the front of my boot with no room to move. So I doubt its the sizing of the shoe...They are Burton Raptors...

Also I am totally over my issue with narrow trails...I am not a 100% clean about it and there's a little nervousness but at least I can push through it now and it doesn't intimidate me.

Jason I dont know anyone else that rides although I have taught the bare basics to a few friends hoping to get them into it. Had them do the 3 lesson package at Camelback but gave them lesson all day before that so they go the most out of it. Most of my friends arent interested because they couldnt handle the thrashing they got on their first day. LOL

I am excellent at heelside turns because I usually brake using heelside. My toeside I can initiate but while I toeside it doesnt feel stable. Feels like my edge is going to slip and I am going to fly backwards. Which is an awful feeling lol...I have a gopro and i am picking up a gopole so hopefully I can put up some videos for you guys to check out and see the issues in my form till I can get lessons. Definitely interested in doing a private lesson with an instructor around Feb.

All in all I am much more comfortable with speed now and was actually going pretty damn fast down the hill with stability. I was still turning but wasn't holding the turn and braking to bleed the speed. Felt uncomfortable when I did hit a certain speed but I will push harder next time at the slopes.

By the way the blues at BlueMT had loads of powder today and felt like I was in Stowe! Much better than that shithole camelback!

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Old 12-10-2013, 11:15 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Toes smashed and heel lift could mean your boots don't fit your foot shape well. Can address it somewhat with foam/j bars, different foot beds. Check this link:

ShredSoles - Performance Snowboarding Insoles

Can also crank the strap on your binding more.

For technique, most beginners need to bend their knees a LOT more. When you think they are bent enough, you're probably still standing straight up. You can make yourself bend them more by leaning the highbacks more forward. In some cases, this can help with heel lift issues too.

If you have trouble on toe side turns, and you feel like it's because you always stop on hour heel side, make it a point to always stop toe side until you get more comfy with it.

Stay off the bunny hill! It's fine for learning to stand up on your first day. After that, it's just not going to get you anywhere. Find the steepest green or easiest blue and do it over and over. Keep your speed up. Not hauling ass, but fast enough that you don't screech to a stop everytime you think about getting on an edge.
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