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Old 12-21-2013, 10:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone done one? Been riding since the 90s, can tackle most everything I ride pretty well but was thinking it might be nice to get an outside opinion on my riding style/habits. Would love to improve my approach on real steep stuff.

Wife and I are headed to Stowe after New Years and was thinking about doing a lesson.
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Old 12-21-2013, 11:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I would think you'd have to track down somebody that really knows their stuff to get the type of continuing education your looking for. I don't know much about differences in lessons personally.


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Old 12-21-2013, 11:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I don't do lessons but I sometimes do sessions - hire out a guide or an instructor to ride with for a day. Especially if I'm unfamiliar with the resort or area, or don't want to board alone in a sketchy terrain. I don't ask them to evaluate my riding but sometimes pick up new tricks that I wouldn't have otherwise necessarily tried on my own.
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Yeah I would certainly want it to be with an experienced instructor, the private lesson rates up there are pretty pricey so if I were to do it I would not be happy if I got some rube.
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I took a lesson last year and spent some time talking with various ski pros and the boot fitter at the mt to figure out which board instructor really knew their shit. I found the lesson to be worth it. It was more about refinement and getting feedback on my form and the little places I could improve. Most of our time was on the steeps and slack. As a bonus I also got advice on different access points to areas and secret stashes.
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i dont know how it works for every resort. but the general classes are usually ranked on skill level, so if you go to the ski school office and explain your situation, and tell them your ability level that you are presumably at the most advanced level you would appreciate it if you could get a senior instructor that is level 3, preferably with other certifications (such as a freestyle cert) so you can get the most precise fine tuning on your riding
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i dont know how it works for every resort. but the general classes are usually ranked on skill level, so if you go to the ski school office and explain your situation, and tell them your ability level that you are presumably at the most advanced level you would appreciate it if you could get a senior instructor that is level 3, preferably with other certifications (such as a freestyle cert) so you can get the most precise fine tuning on your riding
Exactly this.
I'm a CASI Level 2 instructor and my club starts the season with two days of on-hill training for instructors by having sessions with Level 4 instructors.
We also have a mid-season professional development day of the same plus half-day sessions throughout the season.
I have always found these sessions helpful in advancing my riding.

Do exactly as described in the quote above so you get a top level instructor.
I think you'll be surprised at how helpful a session is, even for an advanced rider.
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Exactly this.
I'm a CASI Level 2 instructor and my club starts the season with two days of on-hill training for instructors by having sessions with Level 4 instructors.
We also have a mid-season professional development day of the same plus half-day sessions throughout the season.
I have always found these sessions helpful in advancing my riding.

Do exactly as described in the quote above so you get a top level instructor.
I think you'll be surprised at how helpful a session is, even for an advanced rider.
You know I tried exactly this at blue Mtn ontario and they lost it in the shuffle at their office. When I showed up I got a random instructor from the lineup.

If you can get a specific name that might help. Maybe other hills are more organized.
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You know I tried exactly this at blue Mtn ontario and they lost it in the shuffle at their office. When I showed up I got a random instructor from the lineup.

If you can get a specific name that might help. Maybe other hills are more organized.

Good 'ole Blue.
They try hard.

Try Jim Morris at MSLM to set you up with a Level 3 or 4 instructor there. That's where we get our afternoon sessioners.
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With an advanced rider, it isn't a "lesson" per se. At this level of riding, it becomes coaching. Sometimes, as an advanced rider, coaching is even more beneficial than a "lesson" to a lower level rider because at these levels of riding, technique becomes even more critical. Movement analysis is the key here. The coach does not necessarily have to be a "better" rider than you. He or she just has to have the training and experience to do accurate movement analysis and have the technical knowledge to use it to improve your performance. I have coached far better riders than myself and made them even better by being good at what I do.

When you are an advanced rider looking for coaching, be sure to have some very specific riding tasks that you want to focus on. The cert level of the instructor is not nearly as important as their ability to do good movement analysis and be able to communicate their observations well and then come up with strategies to improve your riding. Be sure to ask specifically for a coach that has a reputation for having good skills at movement analysis.
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