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chomps1211 01-14-2014 06:11 PM

Skating,.. Finally, A breakthrough!
 
I have been struggling with this for three years and I think I've finally figured out what the trouble has been. I have been incapable of any semblance of control when trying to turn toe side while skating on my board. It would always end up spinning around on the nose of the board. Usually I wind up catching the heel edge after being spun, or I panic and set my free foot on the snow which usually gets me wishboned. :dizzy:

I could go heelside just fine, turn, stop, drag my free heel to brake a straight roll etc. But going toe often ended badly.

Everyone I asked gave different variations of the same advice, but they all included telling me to lean forward like when riding to engage the toe edge at the contact point and help turn.

Recently when dismounting the lifts, I started setting my free foot on the board with a fair amount of toe off that edge AND keeping a lot more weight on the rear foot! This works!!! (...for me anyway.)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that this works because on my cambered Arbor and my hybrid RCR Proto, this weighting the back foot puts the running edge in better contact with the snow. That and having more toe hanging out over that edge lets me pressure it better to help with stability and control.

This has helped me skate/ride unstrapped for longer distances, with some reasonable ability to steer and control the board without all that spinning.

Is my thinking sound on this? I mean it seems to work for me where nothing else has. :dunno:

Not to mention, Heel side has always been my go to side, so I find that even in this toe heavy weighted free foot stance, if things get sketchy or I need to bail for some reason on going toe. Getting back on my heel is pretty easy and I can take evasive action that way without crashing.

Webs 01-14-2014 07:59 PM

I've had similar issues, I'll try it out tomorrow and let you know. :p

CassMT 01-14-2014 08:08 PM

if it works, and helps you not be ThatGuy, its a win

SnowDogWax 01-14-2014 08:15 PM

Do what works. But the more you one foot with success the muscle memory will develop. I'll bet that your back foot will start to move back to the center little by little. As you've said in another post one day it just clicked..

t21 01-14-2014 08:19 PM

I had the same issue before but what I learned from my neighbor(he rides the proto) is to bend your forward leg, lean or shift your weight a bit forward and have your back foot just resting on your stomp pad or in front of the binding with no pressure. pressure your front toes and the board just turns. Now I'm just trying to maneuver around people when they decide to stop at the middle of the path and BS:mad:

hardasacatshead 01-14-2014 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by t21 (Post 1436649)
I had the same issue before but what I learned from my neighbor(he rides the proto) is to bend your forward leg, lean or shift your weight a bit forward and have your back foot just resting on your stomp pad or in front of the binding with no pressure. pressure your front toes and the board just turns.

^ This is what works for me. I don't put much pressure at all on my back foot. I turn using exactly the same turn initiation principles at I normally would, toe side = bend the knee, heel side = lift toes and push down with the heel. Let the back of the board follow the front. I'd comfortably one foot it down green/blue groomers with no real dramas.

In saying that, not everything works for everyone. If what you do stops you wiping out other boarders off the lift then sweet as. If it stops you wiping out skiers then go back to your old ways :D

vajohn 01-14-2014 08:33 PM

Why don't you just spend time riding one foot on the beginner slopes? Spend an hour doing that each time until you can ride one foot. I can't really describe what I do, been riding so long it is just like second nature, but I could ride most easier slopes and some intermediates one foot if I had to. Once you can link turns on a green slope one foot, I doubt you will ever have problems on lifts. And I do drag a foot when needed, I think everybody does.

snowklinger 01-15-2014 12:05 AM

I just had a breakthrough skating myself!

Different but skating!

There is a regular run to chair 8 involving a slow start and cattrack about 1/2 mile. Everyone including myself straps in and its kinda lame. Starting a couple weeks ago I just 1 foot the fucker and its way more fun, ends in a little gully into the trees at a treefort/smoke hut.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

1 footing in the trees is fun with the lil pops.

Irahi 01-15-2014 12:58 AM

If you're having trouble turning towards your toe edge, you're probably letting yourself rotate your shoulders forward while trying to one foot it. I'll bet when you concentrate on shoving your rear foot farther back, you probably keep your shoulders more in line with your tip and tail.

Gohsef 01-15-2014 01:56 AM

I definitely go let my toe of my back foot hang off the board a bit when doing toe-edge skate - agree that it does make it easier.

The other thing that I also found to be helpful was to push up against the side of my back bindings. Felt that this allows me to have a firmer grip on the board and helps prevent washouts. I do ride without a stomp pad so not sure if this would still make sense with a stomp pad.


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