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Pljudson 01-22-2014 04:56 PM

Air Spins
 


I am really good at flips/spins on the trampoline and I can do ground spins really easily but when I get in the air on a snowboard I feel like i just freeze and its hard for me to pop while im turning into a spin. Besides my bad landing what can I do to spin fast. If im like going on flat ground i can pop in the air and do a 180 like extremely easy but when I go off a tiny jump I get like confused in the air I guess.

lab49232 01-22-2014 05:14 PM

It looks like your spinning with your legs instead of your core (the midsection of your body). This is easy to do on small spins like a 180 but as you get in to higher rotations a lot of the force will need to come from your core. If you load your core and release as you come off the jump your body will spin and the board will follow and your rotation will be much faster.

Pljudson 01-22-2014 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lab49232 (Post 1460825)
It looks like your spinning with your legs instead of your core (the midsection of your body). This is easy to do on small spins like a 180 but as you get in to higher rotations a lot of the force will need to come from your core. If you load your core and release as you come off the jump your body will spin and the board will follow and your rotation will be much faster.

Is it easier to do this with a grab? because i try to use my upper body and i end up leaving my legs behind. If i try this and just grab the front of my board will that help keep me together?

Alkasquawlik 01-22-2014 05:40 PM

Your head is looking for the landing at about 90 degrees, which stops your body from continuing the rotation. Your body will follow your head, so if you continue to turn your head while in the air, the rest of the rotation will follow.

My $0.02 after watching it twice.

Pljudson 01-22-2014 06:44 PM

Should i practice on a bigger jump i can really pop off and try to 360? Also should I start using my core right after I pop or before?

Krato 01-22-2014 07:00 PM

Your mechanics are the same as if you are doing it on carpet or a tramp. Notice how your legs led your torso. For all spins you need to learn how to throw the spin with your shoulders and arms. The only reason dudes carve into a jump is to better anchor their edge while they start the spin with their upper body. Your feet will follow your head and shoulders, just remember that.

lab49232 01-22-2014 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pljudson (Post 1460833)
Is it easier to do this with a grab? because i try to use my upper body and i end up leaving my legs behind. If i try this and just grab the front of my board will that help keep me together?

Exactly as other people put, no need to grab. If you follow through with your head your legs will follow. You should be prepping and tightening your core on the jump and then releasing the energy once you pop. If your whole body including your head finishes your spin your board will follow. While normal riding has a lot to do with foot and leg movements spins are a ton of upper body. Turn and tighten your core towards your back shoulder just while sitting on your couch and then pretend your about to start spinning towards your front shoulder and you should instantly even while sitting still be able to feel that stored power there.

Mystery2many 01-22-2014 09:09 PM

On top of previous advice. You are barely getting any air. The more air you get the less effort you will need to complete your rotation in time before you land.

If you try doing a 360 off that same hit you will need to add more core wind up and rotation and more pop. Also you are standing a little tall. Add a little more compression to your stance for more pop and better feel.

sclogger 01-22-2014 09:33 PM

Your almost at 90 degrees of rotation before you clear the the lip of the kicker. For a 180 it's unnecessary. Like others have said focus more on popping off that lip and leading with your shoulders/head. The more air you get, the less need you'll feel to rush the rotation.

Also, before you move to a 360, get that 180 hammered down. No need to run before you can walk. If you focus on 3's you'll have more issues going back to 180's and even bigger problems with 5's.

NZRide 01-22-2014 09:51 PM

Great advice above so just follow that.
One thing I noticed in your video that may help you break through, is your actually counter rotating your upper body against the direction of the spin! If you pause the frames just on your take off, you have started rotating the board backside but you shoulders are pushing back straight down the fall line (like the way you rode in) and if you pause in mid air you can see your body has carried on fighting against the actual spin direction, from the peak air position you can see your shoulders and arms are trying to keep your body riding down regular while just your lower body has tried to do a backside 3.
To do a 360 your upper body definitely needs to be in on the game.


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