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Old 01-23-2014, 01:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Alright,

Made a trip to Maggie Valley in NC, everything went well. A bit of background I've skateboarded for about 15 years and surfed for about a season. Things went well, I stayed on the easy slope for about 3 runs, I was doing well then rode every intermediate hill and noticed speed was my biggest issue.

Even on the easy slope, I could carve between people breezing through no big deal and then towards the bottom it got pretty fast. The end was quite slanted and I would just haul and try to carve but I'd always end up on my heelside for a brief amount of time then stopped on my butt

After the day was over, I was killing the easy slope navigating carving up the 1/4 ramp shaped wall on the side going around everyone then I caught stupid speed at the bottom to my demise. I think I just knew I was going to fast and just gave up.

What can I do to prevent this speed issue, I also seem to have no issues toeside carving and scrubbing a bit of speed but heelside I can't seem to lock my body into position all the time and stay, sometimes I just swoop around switch without trying. Never happens toeside though and for whatever reason that ends up being comfortable.

Towards the end I could really go back and forth aggressively by taking and utilizing my back foot heavily. But I was eventually too tired to even do that and that was when I tried the last ride for the day...bad choice on the intermediate slope ha.

Overall great experience but, what do I do next on my way to Colorado at Keystone. How can I make the most out of my trip while having fun and staying upright without gaining way to much speed. Ideas on my carving and how to not spin around and keep my body from just following through, I can hold it toeside like a big powerslide on a skateboard. Can't heel so easy unless I was really tired?

Where do I go from here, cheers.
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Old 01-23-2014, 02:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Get a lesson. You're going to hurt yourself/someone else if you carry on like that.
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Old 01-23-2014, 03:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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speed issue? you just make more turns to bleed the speed off.
also if you get on your heel edge and then the back of the board comes out and you lose balance two things, one you are weighting your back foot too much, two you are not bending your knees.
look for tutorials and correct your stance and learn how to control your speed.
on your first day I really doubt you are carving by the sound of it. carving is mostly initiated by front foot not back.
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Old 01-23-2014, 05:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm not that experienced a rider so I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm mistaken, but if you are having trouble staying locked into your heel side when turning or stopping? You might need to dial in some more forward lean to the highbacks. Heel side is usually easiest to hold for most ppl. Just a thought.



Btw, listen to the advice about lessons. Speed is sweet! Reckless, poorly controlled speed will get you or someone else hurt!
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Old 01-23-2014, 05:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You're not carving. Sounds like you are ruddering, but even that should let you control your speed. Lessons.
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Old 01-23-2014, 05:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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From the sound of your problem compared to how you say you're riding I have to think what you think you are doing well you actually aren't. If you can carve and turn down the hill then speed would not be an issue because you'd be controlling your speed with your turns. It's a common misconception by self taught riders who want to think they're good right off the bat that they know how to ride when really they are actually doing some modified falling leaf or just not falling. Knowing how to snowboard and knowing how to not fall at the top of the hill are completely different.

It takes time to learn to snowboard no matter what sport you did before, and there's no shame in that. If you're getting too much speed and don't know how to control it you don't know how to turn or carve. Take a lesson. And if you think I'm wrong I can assure you that when you said you we're controlling movement with your backfoot that's the first thing you learn not to do. You turn and control everything starting with your front foot.
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Good ole Cataloochie, quite a jump going to Colorado!
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Old 01-23-2014, 07:36 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Sounds like you're teaching yourself quite a few bad habits.
Snowplowing, Ruddering..

Seriously, lessons or even watching a ton of youtube videos helps! When I learned years ago I thought I was doing pretty damn good the first few days till I caught an edge at speed on a cat track. Broke my ribs

I never got lessons, the instructors at my hill where I grew up were glorified baby sitters and weren't really into it. I think they would've help tremendously though!


In any event, have a good time in Colorado!
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Old 01-23-2014, 07:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I might pick up a lesson in Colorado then, going with a couple of buddies that are actually good but not sure if they are the teaching type.

To clear up everything:

I can maneuver around fine, when going slow. At the top of the hill the speed was manageable for my terrible riding skills. I was never out of control there and could avoid any issues and even do some decent 'carving' around.

When I got towards the bottom the slant was crazy in comparison and my ability to scrub speed go side to side was not something I could do. I would be hauling so much by then if I attempted to go on the heels I would be sitting to far back and go to my butt. I was entirely too scared to lean forward at that speed and catch an edge. Which I happen to do, sucked and tweaked my knee really bad. I remember seeing my knee up by my head and thinking oh that is bad. Was that last run when I was way to tired.

Anyway, lessons perhaps but I would be there alone with non of my buddies obviously. Am I doing well of course not and I have no shame admitting that. I would assume I could go and have fun without dying or injury.

So when the hill is mellow I have a great time and I can be "in control" meaning I won't hit anyone and I can keep going without much fear of dying/falling. What can I practice to hone my skills and become better suited for speed etc.

I also think with the width of the runs in CO I'll have more options to learn how to go side to side more without fear of nailing someone three feet from me. The hill was quite crowded. I think that will help a lot.

For the life of me I don't know why I could slide down the hill toeside the entire time with control, even from the other sports heel or frontside is so much easier. That was baffling. My buddy suggested I wasn't holding my body back which pulled me around switch sometimes on my heels. On my toeside I would look like I was doing an hour long powerslide on a skateboard, heelside I just needed to position my body more into the opposite direction perhaps.


Much learning, again I want to have fun not be a pro not a ton of snow in South Carolina. I do want to be comfortable in the easier slopes and mild blues.

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Old 01-23-2014, 08:04 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Also the backfoot thing I think is the way I felt but it could be just my body positioning that made it feel like my backfoot.

I think I was just moving my body around into the direction I wanted to switch to which felt like my backfoot perhaps. I could be wrong, obviously.
Not quick back and forth, I'd right out heel/toe for a while.

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