So i've been trying to do a 180 on flat ground. So far, I've managed to (just about) do it by carving onto my heelside - which means i turn to the left, and my f180 becomes more of a fs160 lol.
I've seen people do it really casually, and seemingly without any edging involved. I tried doing that, but usually spin no more than 90 degrees - even if i pre-wind my shoulders, arms and hips.
Am i doing something wrong here? I think I'm winding as hard as I can, but I'm guessing not. Or is it not possible to do a 180 without any edging at all, and the people I see doing them smoothly are just using very little edge angle?
The trick to this is the timing of everything and it sounds like your timing is off by a little, which is why you aren't getting enough rotation.
The order should be this:
1) Pre-wind as needed (less needed as you get better timing)
2, 3 and 4) Start heelside edge pressure (or carve if you want more power), Start rotating your upper body in frontside spin direction, Start popping up evenly off your legs.
All 3 of these things happen at the same time.
5) Finish carve, finish pop (just about to get airbourne), finish rotating your upper body about 60 to 90 degrees into the fs180.
Notice here that you've timed it so all 3 things (carving, pop motion, upper body starts rotation) start and finish at the same time, and your upper body is leading the rotation (it'll be already almost halfway through the fs 180 by the time you get airbourne for your lower body to follow it).
This timing is the crucial bit and if you're finishing your upper body rotation too soon or doing any of this out of timing, you don't get the power you need to spin easily. Your upper body should always be a little bit ahead of your lower body at the start of the rotation because it needs to leads the spin.
Think of it like this when combining your pop, carve and body rotation to rotate:
- Upper body starts spin and leads your body in the right direction
- Carve builds up power to power your rotation
- Pop releases that power by making you airbourne so your carve power can go where your upper body is already rotating
The better you get at this timing, the less you'll need to rely on carving or edge pressure because you're being so efficient with the small amount of power you get just by pressuring your edge for a split second and combining that with your upper body and pop.
ps - if you want to carve into a spin, you start off coming in at an angle, so that even though your carve makes you turn, you still spin the full rotation (see this post here for a diagram: http://www.snowboardingforum.com/tip...ml#post1462145