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Old 01-30-2014, 04:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm setting up my stance on a new board (Ride Highlife UL 158cm) and looking for recommendations for the angle of my stance.

I've always used a duck stance, but this is more of an all-mountain directional board shape so I'm thinking about setting it up with a more directional stance, however I'm worried that it will feel strange after about 20 years of riding a freestyle board with duck stance.

Also, when I stand with a directional angle (as apposed to a duck stance angle) I definitely feel like my back knee is not aligned properly. It feels a bit more natural at 90 degrees, and starts to feel just right when I go back to a slight duck stance.

First, I'll try a more neutral stance, then kind of tweak it from there. But I'm hoping to get some recommendations from anyone who knows about transitioning from freestyle boards to free-ride (all mountain) style boards, and the stances that work the best over that transition period.

quick note about my preferred snowboarding "style":
I prefer free riding, and in my mind I like to imagine surfing while I'm snowboarding. Not chill surfing though, more of a shortboard-style aggressive surfing with lots of carves, tight turns in the pocket, and layback slashes when I see anything that looks like a front-side wave. I don't do a lot of airs but when I do, the most I'd pull would be a grab. No spinning or switch stance for me. I'd never go near a rail slide and rarely go into a half pipe, however I will blaze a bowl from time to time.

I do like to go relatively fast, but stay in tight control. I don't really straight-line anything, usually I prefer very quick transitions from edge as it feels like I have more grip and control that way. While I'm doing that, I like to get a higher stance that feels a bit more like the standard surfing stance, and if you can picture a surfer, perhaps Jerry Lopez "pumping down the line" that's how I like to go edge-to-edge. Also, I'm on the east coast so we have to be careful with the ice out here, perhaps that's why I like to ride edge-to-edge so often.

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Old 01-30-2014, 08:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You're overthinking this IMHO.

If you ride duck right now, try your back foot at zero, leave the front foot as is. Put on headphones, play surfer tunes. Ride. Close eyes and see yourself in the tube, hear the roaring surf as you imagine you are Laird Hamilton at Mavericks. Run over five year old girl snowplowing on skis. Open eyes. Move back foot to plus 5. Repeat.

Be wary however that when you ride forward on both feet it will tend to turn your shoulders open, and make you face down the hill instead of standing sideways. This is the normal stance and shoulder position for hardboard carving but it is a different kind of turn.

I started forward stance and now ride duck, I find it keeps my shoulders in line with the board and helps my mechanics. Wish I'd started duck, had to shake various bad habits. Maybe if I had burton fish and rode deep powder I'd set that board up forward stance. None of that here in ontario.

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If you cant the rear foot away from the front about 3-4 degrees. It will likely feel much more natural.
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All that matters is comfort, duck is totally natural for control and technical riding.

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Old 01-31-2014, 06:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
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surfer here - i've played around with angles of all kinds, but have wound up matching my surf stance for powder or carving days... it just feels right. particularly for powder.

angles are roughly +25 and +5.
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Thanks for the feedback, I'll return to duck if I need to but I set up my board with +17 in the front and +3 in the back (I think)
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if the back knee feels off try canting it forward a few degrees, i ride +24/=12 all the time and made a cant forward on kinda 2 axis, so basically the big toe is the lowest point, this, for me is perfect
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I switch it up, depending on the board & conditions.

Don't pay attention to the numbers, so I couldn't tell you what they are?

Always rock a duck stance, most of the time it's pretty even.
With my front foot a cunt hair more forward.

On pow days when it's real deep, like tits deep.
Literally, up too my titties.

I'll set it up almost forward, but my front foot goes alot more forward.

Maybe I'll practise riding switch on a powder board when it's only a foot deep

But tits deep I'm riding my directional pow board one way.

My favorite way Real fucking fast.

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