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schroern 02-08-2014 10:21 PM

tips for newbie on controlling speed
 
So I bought a used board recently and been riding on it twice so far. I've got turns down on the bunny hill, but started on greens today and struggled controlling my speed. And then using my edges. A friend I was with said it might be cause I'm skinny (I'm 5'9" and 117 lbs) and can't get enough weight on the edges to turn when I'm going at a faster speed (which makes controlling my speed an issue. No clue if weight can be a factor in edge control and speed, so I was wondering if anyone has tips on just controlling speed in general, or if any particular binding setups help with edge control. Its the only thing tripping me up really right now. I'd love to be able to link my turns like I do on the bunny hill.

chomps1211 02-08-2014 10:32 PM

That doesn't sound right to me. I mean unless your on some 160+ cm stiff assed cambered deck. Even then, I would think more speed would give you more inertial "weight" so to speak to flex into the sidecut/edges when turning. I would suspect it is likely more of a technique/skills issue myself.


...but then I'm still pretty new to all this myself, so I'm no expert. Just my first impression of what I would expect. What size and profile type is your board?

schroern 02-08-2014 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chomps1211 (Post 1516369)
That doesn't sound right to me. I mean unless your on some 160+ cm stiff assed cambered deck. Even then, I would think more speed would give you more inertial "weight" so to speak to flex into the sidecut/edges when turning. I would suspect it is likely more of a technique/skills issue myself.


...but then I'm still pretty new to all this myself, so I'm no expert. Just my first impression of what I would expect. What size and profile type is your board?

Yeah see I agree. It felt like an excuse to me, which is funny considering it came from him and not me. I know I'm a beginner and definitely am working on my technique/skills which suck, but learning anything new takes time. I'm probably just not comfortable with speed yet.

I'm on a 148 cm board, and I have no clue about its profile. It's a Ride Catalyst (with Flow bindings) from like 03-04 maybe if that helps any.

wrathfuldeity 02-09-2014 02:50 AM

Imho, its normal...getting used to speed and working on technique to control the board, i.e. getting in the front seat, bending your knees and turning more often. Take some lessons, very likely you are way too stiff legged and go try some blacks for comparison. Today, I nabbed a couple of gals off the bunny hill (riding day 4) to a steep blue and they did fine....got over some fear and got some perspective.

lambar 02-09-2014 07:29 AM

having the same issue as a beginner as well. seem to be fine on a bunny hill, but trying even some of the greens, the change in steepness and speed throws me totally off and i fall the whole way down lol. my thinking is the more subtle moves that easily initiated turns on the less steep bunny aren't enough on a regular run.

any other tips would be appreciated!

MelC 02-09-2014 07:42 AM

Most of it is psychological, fear of speed. I remember the first time an instructor took our class to the lip of a double black and thinking no effing way am I going over that thing. No choice though so you just had to trust the turn and amazingly I discovered everything that worked on the easier hills worked here too once you got past the mental barrier. If you have mastered the bunny hill, stay on the greens until you have mostly masterd them then throw in some blues and go back to the greens and you will be amaxed at how simple the greens suddenly seem. And so on and so forth.

lambar 02-09-2014 08:03 AM

yeah definitely think there's a mental aspect to it.. doesn't help the confidence also when i get off the chairlift the first time and faceplant lol.

i think i also probably tend to lean back instinctively and not bend my knees enough so will need to work on that.

snowklinger 02-09-2014 08:25 AM

Skinny people can't snowboard, proven fact, that's why I'm so awesome at it.....

chomps1211 02-09-2014 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by snowklinger (Post 1517065)
Skinny people can't snowboard, proven fact, that's why I'm so awesome at it.....

+1. Lol! :laugh:
...I was asked, "You wanna go shred?" I heard, "You wanna get Fed!" :eusa_clap:

DevilWithin 02-09-2014 09:17 AM

Here are a few basic tips that I found helped me:
1) Stretch and exercise your legs, back, shoulders and neck regularly - this helps when you're on the mountain. Using your own body weight for squats, etc helps a lot...no need for heavy weight lifting. Throw in some cardio so you don't tire as easily at altitude. Getting sore and tired is main reason people crash.
2) Relax your shoulders...don't tense up.
3) Maintain good posture - when you are new there is a tendency to bend over forward at the waist, which throws off your balance. Push out your belly button and pull in the small of your back to keep good posture. If you get tired...take a break until this feels natural.
4) In the beginning, keep your eyes focused ahead and where you want to go. Don't look at your feet to see if you are engaging your edge...you will fall. Keep your head up and ride in a confident posture.
5) Make sure you always have 51% of your weight on your front foot - don't ride on your back foot.
6) Put pressure on the tongue of your boot to engage your toe-side turns.
7) Check to make sure your bindings are set up properly (no toe or heel drag). Lace up your boots without your feet in them and place them in your bindings. Ratchet your bindings on them and look to make sure they are centered on your board without too much overhang on either side.

Most importantly, get a lesson! The instructor will be able to help you with all of this a lot faster than you can figure out on your own.

Good luck!


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