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How To: From the GROOMERS to the GLADES...

any tips? i feel pretty confident on marked trails. went into some glades with my buddies at Stowe and felt COMPLETELY lost. fell a bunch, went super slow, sliding my way down.

was scary and a huge workout. other than feeling comfortable with turns, looking BETWEEN the trees and taking your time, anything else to learn?

also are there easier glades i should start with? not sure who's familiar with Stowe but we hit some glades at the top of upper nosedive. the guys i were with remarked that this section of glades was particularly hairy.

for those not familiar w/ the glades i'm speaking of...these are them (not my video). skip to around 02:00

Nosedive Glades - YouTube

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slow down

lower your hips (this will make you tired quicker)

learn to drive all 4 contact points with quads, toes, boot tongues, and highbacks.

successfully riding trees is all about technique.

front foot control.

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man that looks nasty. I would say take it slow and be prepared for the terrain.
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I remember in the mid 80s when I was like 14 going into what we thought was the glades at Stowe. I crashed and suddenly dropped like 5 feet down where there was snow covering a running ravine. It was like quicksand, the more I struggled to claw my way out the more I fell down and it was about 3:30 in Feb so the sun was going down. Took probably 15 minutes to get out. Good times now, but I remember really starting to freak out.
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I'm learning the same thing at Stowe, all my friends love the glades but they kinda freak me out so I go slow.

To get better I've been riding moguls to get the motion down, and that has helped a lot. The trick is to kind of "rudder" the tail of your board and use turning to slow down, because going too fast in the woods is super dangerous.

I would suggest trying the glades off of Toll Rd. and Sterling before going in the steeper stuff. When you're going down toll rd off of Sunrise, look to your left as you descend. Try and spot some tracks from other people. You can drop down in these and they're more mellow than Nosedive.
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I'm learning the same thing at Stowe, all my friends love the glades but they kinda freak me out so I go slow.

To get better I've been riding moguls to get the motion down, and that has helped a lot. The trick is to kind of "rudder" the tail of your board and use turning to slow down, because going too fast in the woods is super dangerous.

I would suggest trying the glades off of Toll Rd. and Sterling before going in the steeper stuff. When you're going down toll rd off of Sunrise, look to your left as you descend. Try and spot some tracks from other people. You can drop down in these and they're more mellow than Nosedive.
where do those nosedive glades rank in difficulty?
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Go to Jay Peak. They have the best glades in the east ranging from easy to gnarly.

Go to the East Coast Meet at Jay Peak next year at the end of Feb and ride with people better than you. You'll will learn.

What makes glades on the east coast difficult is they they are far more moguled than in the west. Get your hop turns and mogul technique down and your tree riding will improve. Keep your body compressed and low and plan your turns so that you're setting your edge on the soft tops not the icy rutted backsides. When you get tired the tendency is for the front leg to lock up dead straight. Do back-squats and lunges and wall squats and box jumps to prep and you can hold that off longer. When your legs are smoked, stop and rest or pay the price with a broken femur as some people on this forum can attest. Tree > Femur.

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I was at stowe maybe a month ago, in the same glades. It felt pretty steep even compared to some of the jay peak glades ive been in. You can clearly tell from the footage as well. Uhm, having fresh snow in the glades helps a lot. Riding them late afternoon with them trophed/rutted out by other riders/skiiers will make things very difficult, since that will force you to follow a path carved out by others, not to mention being unenjoyable. Stowe definitely has glade runs that are tamer than this, personally, I wouldn't be hitting anything this advance til I got the basics down.
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Speed checking is a bitch when you're in the trees, so if you can't slow down find your line and charge it. Reset and go again. Obviously, if it was your first run you can't expect much out of it. Which is why it is important to go back and repeat it over and over again, if possible.
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Speed checking is a bitch when you're in the trees, so if you can't slow down find your line and charge it. Reset and go again. Obviously, if it was your first run you can't expect much out of it. Which is why it is important to go back and repeat it over and over again, if possible.
speed checking and glades? What an odd practice, certainly not something that goes through my head since there's never any knuckle or landing I have to worry about. I go at whatever pace I'm comfortable with at the time. With glade riding, I find it more psychological than anything. Sometimes I feel like bringing my a-game, other times I feel like a pussy.
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