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Cody011395 03-30-2014 02:56 AM

Proper Jump procedure?
 
I have been getting mixed info on how to hit a jump. Some of my friends say they jump evenly off both feet, but other friends say that they ollie by doing basically a tail press mid way up the jump then popping off the tail as the nose leaves the jump. Which is right? when i hit just i try to pop off evenly, but my board always slips out to behind me and i either land on my stomach or barely on my toe edge. Could someone give me the proper way to hit a jump, get air, and stay balanced?
Thanks,
Cody

24WERD 03-30-2014 03:38 AM

Go back a couple of pages or just wait till next week when some ask again. But in short both feet flat base.

Goto snomie .com or just wit for Jed to reply

Jed 03-30-2014 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cody011395 (Post 1651113)
I have been getting mixed info on how to hit a jump. Some of my friends say they jump evenly off both feet, but other friends say that they ollie by doing basically a tail press mid way up the jump then popping off the tail as the nose leaves the jump. Which is right? when i hit just i try to pop off evenly, but my board always slips out to behind me and i either land on my stomach or barely on my toe edge. Could someone give me the proper way to hit a jump, get air, and stay balanced?
Thanks,
Cody

With jumps you want to be evenly jumping off both feet. That's called a pop, which is always done evenly off both feet, kind of like doing a hop off both feet.

Ollies are typically used for flatground tricks or some rail/box tricks, whereas you use pop for jumps because it's a heck of a lot more stable (and stability is the key to hitting jumps - not height).

You want to pop instead of using ollies off jumps because pop sets you up for a more stable air and ollies off jumps can be unstable, especially as you start doing bigger jumps.

As far as where you're going wrong, I'd wager you're leaning too much in one direction/bent upper body and not popping evenly and balanced. Either that or you're focusing on popping too hard and making yourself unbalanced by trying for power instead of stability. Pop is all about stability, not about how hard you can pop.

Make sure you're timing your pop correctly too, you should be popping as you ride up the ramp, not just at the last second (see attached photo below for timing of pop).

Ideally, for a straight air pop, you also want to be on a tiny bit of toe edge. Not enough that you're turning, but rather you're riding in a straight line with a tiny bit of toe edge pressure as you pop. This helps you stay stable as you pop.

Cody011395 03-30-2014 04:34 AM

Thank you so much! ill give this another shot on monday. i just signed up on your website and watched the first video. Your videos are amazing. just the first one and you have cleared up so much confusion for me. cant wait to get the next one! thanks again!!

Jed 03-30-2014 04:38 AM

No worries man, glad you enjoyed the video.

slyder 03-30-2014 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jed (Post 1651154)
Pop is all about stability, not about how hard you can pop.

This is a statement that should be given to more ppl when learning to jump. Maybe it was just me, but many of my buddies also learned this the hard way so I doubt it was just me.

I damn near tried "popping" to the moon, went ok on the smaller jumps but also made my take off on the bigger ones sloppy.

So great quote there Jed and I hope to see it more in the many many threads that will come along like this. I know I searched and still asked similar questions. It's what I and newbies do and thanks for tolerating and still helping us :thumbsup:

F1EA 03-30-2014 12:02 PM

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Yea Jed's recommendationsnare always awesome. Perfect really.

I think the key to easy jumps is 1) stable pop and 2) being able to comfortably control your speed.

#1 is basically what Jed said and #2 is what sets you up to do #1 properly. You will NOT make a stable pop if you can't keep your speed/turns without sketching out or losing balance. That moment when you pop you have to be in total control and balanced.

The rest ussually is a piece of cake, if 1 and 2 were done right. (I'm talking about easy jumps here). If you feel you're not ready to turn and speed check casually (ie effortless and in total control), learn to do that first.

tokyo_dom 03-30-2014 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jed (Post 1651154)
Ideally, for a straight air pop, you also want to be on a tiny bit of toe edge. Not enough that you're turning, but rather you're riding in a straight line with a tiny bit of toe edge pressure as you pop. This helps you stay stable as you pop.

I think this might be one of the first times i have seen this written here on the forum, but i know from personal experience it is right. So many times you see "Make sure you are completely flatbased", but as well as putting you at the mercy of possibly catching even a tiny bit of edge before the lip (especially when that lip has got carve grooves from people spinning), it also opens up the chances of you accidentally jumping off the heels and letting the board get out in FRONT of you. Landing on your belly/knees is one thing, but you do NOT want to land on your ass/back. That hurts!!:dizzy:

Not so much that you are lifting an edge, but enough to give you stability at the speeds you need to clear the jump

Cody011395 03-30-2014 09:52 PM

IDK if you can even answer this but if you can. how much pop is good? should it be a very light pop? like if i was just flat on the ground how high would i aim for? half a foot? a foot?

Argo 03-30-2014 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cody011395 (Post 1652433)
IDK if you can even answer this but if you can. how much pop is good? should it be a very light pop? like if i was just flat on the ground how high would i aim for? half a foot? a foot?

The best amount of pop is the amount that your still stable and comfortable with after popping, pretty individual thing.


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