Yeah. You will also get eye rolls in a park with calling a sloppy flat spin a cork. He wants to know what a proper cork spin is, tell him what it is. Don't tell him he can slop up a spin and say he does corks, it's not right if your a "coach" or "teacher". Sure say he is getting there but def not correct....
Gotta go make some fresh pow turns so I'll get back later with more debate....
Erm, no idea why you're getting all aggressive. I'm just trying to give him a full explanation, no idea why you want to start calling out my 'coaching' or 'teaching' skills.
I'm trying to explain to him what 'corking' means before talking about the whole confusing 'legit' part. A bad cork or a good cork are both corks by definition if they're off-axis rotations, that's all I'm trying to explain to him so he knows the difference between a regular and cork spin. The cork part just refers to the off-axis rotation, which is what I'm trying to explain.
And for the record, I never said anything about not calling out a sloppy corked spin and I never said he should do sloppy ugly corks. By all means, if someone spins an ugly cork you can say it's ugly, but that doesn't automatically mean every cork that isn't fully inverted is an ugly sloppy spin.
It's quite possible to cork a spin off axis without going pass horizontal and still make it very stylish and in control. I have friends who do very smooth, stylish corked 7s that don't reach invert, but they're still clearly corked and off-axis.
There's a difference between a sloppy flat spin that accidentally corked, and a controlled corked spin that wasn't corked off-axis enough to be inverted.
That's all I'm trying to explain in that it's still possible to do corked spins that look good and are stylish and under control while not quite reaching that full invert.