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f00bar 04-26-2014 08:07 PM

What determines stance angle?
 
I feel kind of silly asking, but I really have nobody to ask who rides. From day 1 I've heard duck stance angle this, duck stance angle that. I understand it's a comfort thing. I've played a bit and honestly don't feel much difference so have kept it at like 12 and 5.

Then I was behind this guy at work walking and he had these huge ronald mcdonald feet that when he walked looked like a 30/30. I mean I don't know how this guy makes it through the door without banging his feet on the sides. I'm sure his GF/wife loves him, but damn he looked goofy walking.

So that being said, should the angle on the board kind of mimmic how your feet are when you are just standing/walking as thats presumably your natural stance? At least as a decent starting point to try? My front is at maybe 5 naturally, the back pretty much straight.

My son is about the same, maybe even more parallel so I'm wondering if I should tone him down a bit, he's at 15/5 now.

Jason913 04-26-2014 08:09 PM

its all personal preference and type of riding.

i believe the best starting point is to jump in the air and see how your feet land naturally.

i just switched mine from 12/0 to 15/-9. feels quite strange at first, but i'm giving it 3 days before adjusting more.

Mizu Kuma 04-26-2014 08:43 PM

All just personal preference, but a negative angle on the back foot will make switch a whole lot easier!!!!!

Donutz 04-26-2014 08:52 PM

Style of riding -- whether your stance is more forward or more duck; relative angles -- whether you're more pigeon-toed, duck-footed, or strictly parallel; canting -- if your bindings support it; stance width; and set-back. There are a lot of variables. Fortunately it isn't like setting up a nuclear reactor -- there isn't one correct setting. You mostly set them up by guess and try it out. If it works, it's good. If it feels uncomfortable or feels like it's interfering with your control, change it.

I got my binding angles early on -- I've been at 15/-9 forever. But I have fooled a bit with set-back and stance width. Works fine now.

ThredJack 04-26-2014 08:52 PM

Personal preference + riding style.

If you're more of a all mountain rider, who rarely rides switch, duck isn't entirely necessary. If you're a park rider who rides switch a lot, duck definitely helps. But when I peak in the park, I still see guys riding in non-duck, and I see guys on the mountain riding duck. Whatever feels more comfy to you is the correct stance, basically.

f00bar 04-26-2014 09:04 PM

Ok, so for next season I'll take a look at both of us and re adjust a bit. I chose 15/-8 because it seemed to be what I saw a lot of. In actuality I think we are probably naturally around 5/<-5 or so.

It's going to be a long summer of stupid questions, so I'll apologize ahead of time for that.

Slush Puppie 04-27-2014 03:13 PM

A total angle of 30 degrees is a good starting point for most people. Personally I ride 15/ -15 and find this perfect. But feel free to adjust by a few degrees either way.

EatRideSleep 04-27-2014 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f00bar (Post 1697114)
So that being said, should the angle on the board kind of mimmic how your feet are when you are just standing/walking as thats presumably your natural stance? At least as a decent starting point to try? My front is at maybe 5 naturally, the back pretty much straight.

I once asked a chiro I was seeing about this, thinking in my nerdy way that it must matter, ie the way the femoral heads sit in the pelvis + respective knee and ankle articulations resulting in unique foot angles.

She wasn't a snowboarder (and not enough of a chiro for me as it turned out) but she suggested it would be the way the feet angle when lying supine/non-weight bearing.

My snowboard stance angles are similar although I've just gone by eye and not actually measured (have to keep inner nerd in check sometimes haha). Have also noticed if I glance down randomly while standing my feet are in angles similar to my stance angles. So that's reassuring.

I'm at +12 or +9/-6 (goofy). I was one of those who used to ride 0/0 when I first started...hence don't recommend that.

When you say the hind foot looks "pretty much straight" it might not be 0 but something mild like -3. It is all personal preference so try different angles and see what works for you.

chomps1211 04-27-2014 07:33 PM

I actually saw a girl here this year who was riding with a "Pigeon Toed" stance.
Her front foot had a neg angle on it! Positive angle for the rear. :blink:

I was so surprised by it, I actually stopped to ask her about it. Turns out, She was a fairly "newb" rider. She said she was Self taught and from what I saw, actually a pretty decent boarder. She was working on getting her switch riding down this particular day. ...and doing quite well, so Yeah! Personal preference and comfort I guess really are your major concerns.

f00bar 04-27-2014 07:51 PM

I think I just did my typical jump into something without thinking, and then start to over analyze.

The instructors the first time when you ask pretty much just say 'whatever feels good' followed by a 'I have mine at blah/blah' without really explaining what the point is, other than feeling good. I mean it feels good because of some physical/anatomical condition of your body. That said most of the rental stuff is pre set up and not really adjustable on the slopes anyway.


An explanation such as from eatridesleep would probably have me at half of what I set it at. Which at least to me makes the most sense and is kinda what I was thinking in my downtime of waiting for December.


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