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Hip positioning on toe edge

Hello! I am a beginner snowboarder. I just started this season and had like 10 runs. I ride by myself mostly or with friends who worse than me. Usually ride greens but because of spring condition was doing some blues on Killington mountain.

I'm a little bit confused with my stance when I ride on toe edge. I used to ski a lot and never took a lesson or watched a video and realized that I have many bad habits only after many "struggling" runs on black diamonds.

So now I decided to take classes from time to time. I managed only to get 2 classes (because of spring conditions all mountains closed snowboarding schools). And both were on same mount (Hunter, NY) and with same instructor. Difference between classes was 2 weeks but he was telling me same thing.

So before classes I was riding on my toe edge in "sitting position" like my hips behind my knees. My instructor told me it's a bad stance and that I should rotate my hips forward when I ride toe side and then go back in sitting position when I switch to heel edge. If I need to achieve bigger angle on toe edge I just should arch my back and that way my knees will bend too.

It's very awkward movement and it took me quite some time to get used to it but after trying it for quite some time I notice that I just cant bend my knees that much in that position and that kinda scares me. I fell quite a few times because if I start catching edge I cant adjust very fast with this awkward position.

Last week when I rode in Killington I ended up just riding both edges in "sitting position" and I had a great time. But I don't want to get used to this riding if it's a bad habit.

I wish I could take one more class but because I cant I have to ask you guys.

PS. sorry about my bad English it's my 3rd language. And if you didn't understand what I mean by stances I can upload some pictures.

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When you're on your toe edge, pretend you're taking a piss while strapped in to your board. Push your hips out so you don't get any dribbles of piss on your board. Problem solved.

I'm actually serious by the way.

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I'm no instructor, and by no means a good snowboarder, but I was always taught that you should keep your weight and stance centered above your board, and your knees bent!!!!!

I'm not sure what you mean by rotating hips????? As your hips should be aligned with the nose and tail of the board!!!!!

* This applies to learning to carve and hold an edge properly on hard pack groomers!!!!! Pow can be a different story!!!!!
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When you're on your heel edge, pretend you're taking a piss while strapped in to your board. Push your hips out so you don't get any dribbles of piss on your board. Problem solved.

I'm actually serious by the way.
When I am on heel edge? You dont mean toe edge?
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I'm no instructor, and by no means a good snowboarder, but I was always taught that you should keep your weight and stance centered above your board, and your knees bent!!!!!

I'm not sure what you mean by rotating hips????? As your hips should be aligned with the nose and tail of the board!!!!!

* This applies to learning to carve and hold an edge properly on hard pack groomers!!!!! Pow can be a different story!!!!!
By rotating hips I mean 2 positions. when you in sitting position your hips are behind you and 2nd position is your hips kinda pushed forward. My instructor told me that when I am transitioning to toe edge I should be rotating my hips from sitting position forward, like I am taking a piss how @hardasacatshead mentioned.
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It's called the "Hump and Dump". Toe edge, hips out like you're humping, heel edge, squatted down like you're dumping. If you feel like you're doing it wrong on your toe edge, make sure that you're driving your shins into your boot. This will help you push your hips out. And, if you feel like you're doing it wrong on your heel edge, make sure you're knees are really bent and that you really get into a good squat. Don't over think it.

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When I am on heel edge? You dont mean toe edge?
Oops, yes. Fixed.
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When you're on your toe edge, pretend you're taking a piss while strapped in to your board. Push your hips out so you don't get any dribbles of piss on your board. Problem solved.

I'm actually serious by the way.
Not applicable if female.

For heel edge it is
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Not applicable if female.

For heel edge it is
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It's called the "Hump and Dump". Toe edge, hips out like you're humping, heel edge, squatted down like you're dumping. If you feel like you're doing it wrong on your toe edge, make sure that you're driving your shins into your boot. This will help you push your hips out. And, if you feel like you're doing it wrong on your heel edge, make sure you're knees are really bent and that you really get into a good squat. Don't over think it.
I see. But see my trouble with it I think I when I am in that position my knees aren't bend that much or might not bed at all. Is that normal?

I was trying to drive shins in my boots and I was achieving a good flex in my knees but at some point I was so over committing that I was on the verge of loosing balance. I was feeling that I was carving instead of just riding on toe edge.

I will be snowboarding in Vermont this weekend. My last trip this season, will be trying to practice this stance but it's just so weird.
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