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post #1 of 66 (permalink) Old 04-28-2014, 12:44 PM Thread Starter
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How does one find more information to improve carving on a more all mountain/freestyle oriented setup (15/-15 stance)?

I can ride on an edge and make smooth arcs of pencil lines on the snow. I'm familiar with fore/aft movements, up unweighting, down unweighting, and cross-under turns. While carving I can probably keep the board angle at about 45 degrees if the condition is nice enough and the run is steep enough.

So I think I understand "basic carving". The thing is, I have never seen any discussions anywhere about how to improve beyond this type of carving. I don't even know whether if there's a point to learning beyond this type of carving. Like... does trying to become better than this help with freestyle, all mountain, or any aspects of riding?

I've seen people on a freestyle board setup that can somewhat mimic euro carving. They can ride almost with their body parallel to the ground and touch their hands on the snow. They wear soft boots and have similar park setups (something like 15/-9). So I know that my 'basic carving' can definitely be improved. But I just don't know whether if there's a point to it. And I don't know where to find the information...
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Go forth and ride and attempt this soft boot euro carving, from there you will see the door to endless possibilities.


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I guess it depends on what you are looking for. are you making some quick switches or you are still doing big long carves?
you looking for function or form?
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First thing you could change your angles to a +21 + 12, ride the board centered and see how it feels, eventually increasing angles to +31 + 18, and keep going.

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I guess it depends on what you are looking for. are you making some quick switches or you are still doing big long carves?
you looking for function or form?
I guess what I'm saying is I know of a few people that focus their entire time on the mountain "improving their carving". They can do some big/aggressive carves and keep their body close to the ground, which I cannot do. The best I can do is probably 45 degree angle to the snow when I carve down a steep groomed run.

I'm always down to learning new techniques if it improves my free riding or freestyle skills. But I am wondering whether if getting that specialized into carving is of any use to freestyle or freeride progression? And also, where can I find information beyond basic carving?
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what's the point of any of this sh!t? if you like doing that and it's fun then do that.
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doing "big/aggressive carves" will not help your freestyle riding if that's what you're really asking. if anything it's the opposite, you need to be able to do tiny on-the-fly adjustments (as you line up for a feature, for example).
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It's just really fun to do when there's no powder, or on hardpack. And it does give you more control overall...

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Your question about the usefulness made me smile, cos that's what I'm sometimes thinking when I see kids slipping over features in the park Different strokes for different folks. It's not the question if improving carving helps with something else - the aim is faster, shorter, deeper, lower, smoother just for the fun of it.
I actually wanted to check if Canmanski (member here; softboot euro carver) from www.megustasport.com has not only reviwes but also teaching vids, but the site is down at the moment


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Your question about the usefulness made me smile, cos that's what I'm sometimes thinking when I see kids slipping over features in the park Different strokes for different folks. It's not the question if improving carving helps with something else - the aim is faster, shorter, deeper, lower, smoother just for the fun of it.
I actually wanted to check if Canmanski (member here; softboot euro carver) from www.megustasport.com has not only reviwes but also teaching vids, but the site is down at the moment
Yep, I was interested in Bart's deal, but it looks like he lost interest well before it went down and hadn't really done anything with the site for awhile...
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