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Old 12-15-2014, 10:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I put together a small edit of a park run at Jack Frost One Park.
My son is 10 y.o going on 11 soon.
He has about 30 days total on snow over past 1.5 years
He wants to progress in the park, and is looking for some pointers.
His issues he would like to work on.

Landings: most of the features are tall and landing off them some time hurts

Rails/boxes he wants to get more creative

Jumps any advice


Please keep the observations constructive.

And I will take it on the chin for the quality of video edit as this was done on gopro helmet. I am happy to take suggestions on how to film better on Gopro and types of mounts.

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Uhm, check your You Tube settings. You may have this set to private or something. It is showing as "video unavailable."

I never want my videos to be available to the general public. So I set them as unlisted or something like that. With that setting, You have to have the full link to view them. This way I can post and share them here, but don't have to worry about any of them going full on viral.
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For being that young, I was very impressed. Until you hi fived him in the end of the video I didn't realize just how young he is. (I obviously didn't read your description very well before I watched the vid lol). As he was moving over the features, I assumed him to be in his mid teens. Props to him for putting in the work and getting results!

I by no means am any park expert, but I figured I would mention a few things to help those who are in your future vids:

-Try getting some video from the side as he takes a jump or hits a feature so that any flaws will be a little clearer. It was kind of hard to tell a whole lot from that distance.

-Maybe try one of those GoPro stick things that people use so you can aim it and not worry about where your head is necessarily facing.

-I may be wrong, but it looks like he skids his toe side when he is speed checking. (once again, not trying to be hard on the kid. super impressive)

Cheers and post some more. It's awesome to see kids progress into this sport so well!
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Aggie. Thanks for the kind words
My probe is I sometimes can't keep up with him when he gets going, so I miss the side shot.

I am working on getting faster.

As for him, I will post some more as I go through the videos from Sunday
He also has a few of him trying to learn to do tripods on flatter ground.
That video is coming next chance i can take a few hours with Sony vegas
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Hey LarryT, I wouldn't presume to give any advice on your son's park riding as I don't do any myself. Also, I'm not a video or GoPro expert, but there I can at least offer a few tips.

1st. It will be hard for anyone who does know their "park" riding to tell much from this video simply because you are so far back. It's difficult to see him at all sometimes, let alone tell what his technique is like.

Try moving in closer. Definitely get a pole to mount the goPro to. I understand if either you or he feels nervous about getting too close to one another while lapping the features. But,.. if he can be comfortable riding and tolerate you riding along side him,.. You will get much better footage. and it will be easier to evaluate and critique his riding. This is where a pole comes in handy too. It alows you to get even closer to the action without risking an imminent collision with your boy, another rider or feature when filming.

All in all, for a first effort? Pretty good! Keep at it. You will both improve!
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For filming, pull that thing off your head. Get an old ski pole and cut it so it's about 2.5 feet long. Get the pole mount and attach it to that so it's hanging from the bottom. I'm assuming by the quality that you are not using a Hero 4 with the new lens in it. You want to be about 5 to 8 feet away from him at all time. Your speed needs to be equal to if not about reduced by 1/3rd of his.

As far as his tricks I couldn't see shit in that video other than it's clear he has no clue how to pop. He's just jumping and hoping around instead of properly initiating pop. What he needs to learn is to keep his knees bent, shoulders over the board and roll forward from the hips in a forward pumping motion then bringing it back to load up the tail of his board. My suggestion is get on that Snomie kick from Jed on here and learn proper popping.

I can see from the butter box he's a bit flaily with his upper body, tell him to not try to chuck himself around from the arms but instead from his core and hips.
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For filming, pull that thing off your head. Get an old ski pole and cut it so it's about 2.5 feet long. Get the pole mount and attach it to that so it's hanging from the bottom….

…when I needed a ski pole for my GP mount? Someone suggested that I ask at the ski shop or rental counter if they had any old, unclaimed poles lying around that they wanted to get rid of.

I had to tell the guy, I only had a pickup truck and couldn't take all the poles he was throwing at me!

They usually have a shitload of 'em from abandoned, lost, dropped from the lifts, etc. No sense in paying for one!
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Like the others said, it's hard to see what his technique is like from that video, but from what I can see his riding looks pretty smooth at least. The others have good suggestions as far as recording goes. As for riding tips: coming off a tall feature, he should extend his legs right before landing so that he can compress them when he lands. This will take a lot of pressure off his legs so the landings won't hurt. Just don't keep the legs extended when landing haha. Anything other than a basic 50-50 or boardslide, make sure he practices it on a box until he is comfortable with it before trying it on a rail.

As for Aggie05's comment about toe skidding when speed checking. Really??? that's how you speed check, by skidding!! You think he's supposed to carve to speed check? Ya, carving might work to speed check if you've got the whole mountain to work with, but that's not gonna work in the park.
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For filming, pull that thing off your head. Get an old ski pole and cut it so it's about 2.5 feet long. Get the pole mount and attach it to that so it's hanging from the bottom. I'm assuming by the quality that you are not using a Hero 4 with the new lens in it. You want to be about 5 to 8 feet away from him at all time. Your speed needs to be equal to if not about reduced by 1/3rd of his.

As far as his tricks I couldn't see shit in that video other than it's clear he has no clue how to pop. He's just jumping and hoping around instead of properly initiating pop. What he needs to learn is to keep his knees bent, shoulders over the board and roll forward from the hips in a forward pumping motion then bringing it back to load up the tail of his board. My suggestion is get on that Snomie kick from Jed on here and learn proper popping.

I can see from the butter box he's a bit flaily with his upper body, tell him to not try to chuck himself around from the arms but instead from his core and hips.
Thanks BA.
The above info is very helpful.

I was going over the lean and load tail with him, we were watching the Sa video but not being able to do it myself, it is hard to coach.

You are correct that it is not hero 4
It is the 3+ silver. Is the lens on the 4 that much better?
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