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Pain in lower right back, I think from turning upper body during toeside turns

Any tips on keeping your body straight? I thought I was riding fine until I began noticing lower back pain, but specifically on my right side when I turn toeside while riding regular. I thought my stance was good and I try holding the side of my pants on my turns to keep me from twisting my body, but I still seem to slightly get away with it on toeside turns.

When I restrict my upper body too much on toeside turns, I can barely turn my head and can not really see down the mountain; I can only see whats directly in front of my board's direction. Are there any tips to get used to that, or is it normal to turn the upper body slightly for more vision and I am just out of shape (because, well, I am).

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You should be stretching/yoga before riding. Proper stance will come.
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You need to relax a bit and not tensed up when you turn toeside. I ride regular too so when you initiate your turn,make sure that you press your toes down and your ankle and knee are relax and bending towards your direction. You can also lean forward with your shoulder to held your turn but DO NOT lean to much. Stay centered and not lean back so your body would not fight back your forward momentum. Hope that helps,have fun!

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Any tips on keeping your body straight? I thought I was riding fine until I began noticing lower back pain, but specifically on my right side when I turn toeside while riding regular. I thought my stance was good and I try holding the side of my pants on my turns to keep me from twisting my body, but I still seem to slightly get away with it on toeside turns.

When I restrict my upper body too much on toeside turns, I can barely turn my head and can not really see down the mountain; I can only see whats directly in front of my board's direction. Are there any tips to get used to that, or is it normal to turn the upper body slightly for more vision and I am just out of shape (because, well, I am).

And yeah, I'm a total beginner
You are probably breaking at the waist (and leaning fwd with your upper body on a toeside turn) instead of bending your knees and keeping your weight more centered on the board.

1. BEND those knees. if your quads are not BURNING at the end of a run... you're doing it wrong. When your knees are too straight you tend to bend at the waist (see 2) and initiate turns with your upper body (see 3).

2. Keep your upper body straight... not tense. Straight. Resist the urge to save your life and lean too far forward. A small edge catch won't kill you
Engage the toe edge by shifting your pelvis forward with your knees bent and upper body straight.

3. Do not initiate your turns with your upper body.... that pain on the side of your back is from you trying to turn the board by counter-rotating your torso (upper body, arms, etc). Initiate a turn by applying pressure to your edges - start with front foot, then rear.

I'm no expert. But i'm almost 100% certain ^ that ^ is what's happening

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My legs hurt, a lot

I don't notice much leaning and only use my legs for control. I figured it had to do with my constantly slight turning and having to maintain that angle of my body during all my toeside turns.
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My legs hurt, a lot

I don't notice much leaning and only use my legs for control. I figured it had to do with my constantly slight turning and having to maintain that angle of my body during all my toeside turns.
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Then your problem is apparently only #3.
Try not to counter-rotate your torso. You don't need to keep your head/upper body looking downhill on a toeside turn...... you can keep your body aligned with the board in the direction the board is going, but slightly turn your neck a bit to see a bit better downhill if needed, on long radius turns. Short radius, dynamic turns can be done differently.
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without a video it's a little hard to tell. you could be trying too hard. which could make you stiffin' your torso by trying too hard to keep it still? which would make your back muscles really tense. maybe it's strain do to constantly fighting the urge to counter rotate? maybe you're leaning too much on your back leg?
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