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post #21 of 85 (permalink) Old 11-13-2007, 05:06 AM
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lise - for sure the single best thing you can do to improve your switch riding, is ducking your feet out.

even if your rear leg is at zero degrees, moving it to even just minus 3 or 6, things get so much easier.

i used to ride something like +21 and 0.... now if i recall, i am at 15 and -12 and loving it in both directions!

the best time for practicing it tho, is when conditions aren't so great and you and 'your gang' are kinda limited to the best one or two runs on the hill; then y'all just do laps. alternating runs between switch with regular. you get to kinda race each other, can always find each other, and you get an appreciation of how much slower your switch is behind your regular riding.... it is funny when you bomb it riding regular past your chums who are stuttering switch.... and then they can do the same to you (until your switch is better than their regular! rah!!!)

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Its so good once you can actually be comfortable in switch too. The only things I kinda struggle with in switch now are big bumps and carving. But I just spent a whole week riding switch, in fact I switch my riding up all the time just because I quite like doing it.
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my switch ambition for this season is jumping

this easter i managed black powder runs, which was super sweet altho still exhausting and foot achy

switch B1s must feel really mellow i reckon!

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my switch ambition for this season is jumping

this easter i managed black powder runs, which was super sweet altho still exhausting and foot achy

switch B1s must feel really mellow i reckon!
By far one of the greatest tricks in the history of anything.

180's will always hold a special place in my heart.
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I'm going up this weekend if it stays cool here on the east coast and with only a couple of runs open you can be sure I'm going to practice my switch riding with the slow snow and all. When I did duck my stance I was at I believe 18, -6 which is where I'm gonna start. If it's not comfortable I'll adjust as it goes along. That is definitely something I need to master this season
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By far one of the greatest tricks in the history of anything.

180's will always hold a special place in my heart.
i guess that's why i've lacked all inclination to go beyond 'the half turn'?

so wolfie..... you started rotations by switching 1s?
you have no stress when ollying switch as well then i take it?

when ever i try to ollie switch i always nollie!

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Thinking back a bit now in my riding development and seeing Paolo's last comment I remember now why I adjusted my stance forward instead of duck back then... I am quite ambidexterous by nature, I can catch, throw, kick just about everything but write with both hands and feet. I would always sort of be torn between sticking to a side and perfecting it so I'd always tended to go heelside to turn ala the "falling leaf" method as I believe it's called, but not even doing it consciously just naturally being like ok i'm facing this way now lets get at it. My friend suggested I try adjusting my stance to a forward facing one to help eliminate that tendency and focus on working my natural goofy side to perfection. I never had an issue with ollieing off either foot or anything like that in fact I was about equal with both sides and could actually turn toe side pretty well both ways... I wonder if I'll be able to now blend my good technical ability to ride my normal way with my ambidexterous ability to ride switch. I hope so, since now looking back I wish I wouldn't have switched the stance!
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The main thing that keeps me off practicing switch is that at the same moement I could do stuff hundred times more fun. Still I have problems sometimes when landing 180 on switch, so anyway I gota learn it. I used to jump from fakie ollie before too, because of landing goofy(my natural stance). This week was full of snow, and there's plenty on mountain to go for it, just hope those guys prepare the tracks for this weekend.
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Two more things I'd like to ask by the way. First one is about jumping from the kickers. Since most of the rotations I did(and very often only tried to do) were from the small bumps on the track or really small kickers. But what about the big kickers that you approach with a lot of speed, is there a need to pop a little ollie just before taking off for a rotation, or you just start rotating without any ollie ?

Second thing is about landing. Well I always learned to land flat based for stability. But when landing on very angled slopes from the spin I saw many boarders touch the ground with their tail first and then nose, not whole base of the board at the same time. Is that intentional, and there's a reason for it, or there just isn't time in the air to make yourself land it flat based ? Thanks.
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about the big kickers that you approach with a lot of speed, is there a need to pop a little ollie just before taking off for a rotation, or you just start rotating without any ollie ?
with a lot of speed and a steep angle of transition, momentum can be enuff to shoot you off into the big blue sky with nice lofty air.

however, i think (and this is only my opinion NOT gospel) that it is good form to ollie off all jumps when possible, to avoid the 'falling off a lip' type jump trajectory. you want to pop; afterall this will extend your 'hang time' and thus allow you greater tweakage of your grab and or more rotation.

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Second thing is about landing. Well I always learned to land flat based for stability. But when landing on very angled slopes from the spin I saw many boarders touch the ground with their tail first and then nose, not whole base of the board at the same time. Is that intentional, and there's a reason for it
landings generally require a slight edge bite when following a rotation to stop it and thus prevent you from sketching out; ie to stop the rotation of your upper body, that was set in motion. but this only really matters for those uber twists like 5's and 7's.

the phenomenom of tail landing is a 'safety blanket', which betrays a lack of confidence in the rider or indeed an incomplete half spin.

say for example you throw a 360, but when coming into land, you see you have only made it around about 310.... death and destruction awaits? well not really. by planting down the tail first, friction can work on your board in a way that pulls the nose around and thus correcting the incomplete rotation.

really, tail heavy landings are bad form, but they are a 'get out of jail free' card.... but as ever, with practice your confidence increases and such landings will become less frequent as they become sweetly flat.

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