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Old 03-15-2015, 11:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default FS Boardslides on down boxes/rails - how to commit?

Lately I have been trying to get FS boardslides happening, but i am not having much luck.

Even on flat boxes i am tending to get up onto my toes, which either means i land flat on my face or if have enough speed it makes for a messy exit. I only have one video of me trying a FS, and you can see my balance isnt right; i dont fall but if the box was 2 feet longer i would have
(second of the 4 slides attempted)

Looking into it, i saw some solid advice about getting comfortable with BS shifties on small kickers, and also to try ensuring i stay over the top of my board with my feet flat, but while i am able to get them 50% of the time on flat features, i just cant visualize how to do it on a down feature. How do i commit to putting my bodyweight perpendicular to the feature while facing backwards? Or is the key to it to bring my feet back under me to get the weight perpendicular once i am on?

My body just doesnt want to throw itself leaning down the mountain while facing backwards!
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Old 03-16-2015, 12:04 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You just have to get your weight forward more, commit! (Not that I would anymore lol)
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Old 03-16-2015, 12:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
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When you're in Japan. Please, for my sake, do not learn how to ride park. Ride as much powder as humanly possible and rub it in my face.
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Old 03-16-2015, 12:38 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Leigh, the slide i am talking about is the FS boardslide (facing backwards). If i get my weight forward any more i would be flat on my face. Unless the forward you are talking about is in reference to the direction of movement?

agaysnowmo, i have decided that if i want that surfy feeling i will go surfing. In fact i plan to try taking it up this summer. In all honesty though, i do like the idea of having a massive BC kicker to jump into pow landings, but realistically it will never happen. Horses for courses, and right now all my horses are park boards
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Old 03-16-2015, 04:03 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Leigh, the slide i am talking about is the FS boardslide (facing backwards). If i get my weight forward any more i would be flat on my face. Unless the forward you are talking about is in reference to the direction of movement?
forward is still down hill, jump toward the box twisting your body at the waist as you go, be a little bit back from perpendicular when you land on it, slide, start to twist back as you approach the end and pop off.
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first in that vid you only did one FS boardslide, all the others were BS (backside) boardslides.
  1. BS boardslide
  2. FS boardslide
  3. BS boardslide
  4. BS boardslide
FS or BS refers to if your hitting the feature from the toe side or heel side and all but #2 you hit the feature heel side

In #2 you used counter rotation to twist your body which was good the others you just hopped up there and opened your shoulders. You could have ridden off switch in those cases making it even cooler even though that wasn't your intention.

Quite your upper body a little more too, you arms are flailing around putting weight forward causing you to get on edge. Yep that one you could slide a book under your board, 2 more feet and it would have come out from under you.

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(second of the 4 slides attempted)
Slyder thanks yes i only had one FS attempt on video, it was mixed with a few BS slides (#1, #3 & #4) that i had done earlier so i just put the whole video up. This was actually back in January, and since then i have been bringing the BS slides onto down rails (even with a gap). But my FS skills have not progressed anywhere since then

Thanks for the tips. I actually thought i had the right idea with the arms extending the counter rotation movement!

I watched another tutorial video today that suggested practicing on a plastic cone thing in the snow/on your living room carpet to get used to the body positioning. Since i only get to go to the snow on the weekends (and then my time in the park is limited since my wife doesnt like jib stuff), this seems like a great idea. If my balance is off, i would slide off the cone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjV5vKYVXYU&t=119

Still not quite convinced on how to position my body for a down box/rail, but then if i cant even get the flat box right, i hope the down stuff will come naturally once i get my body position right
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I used the cone method too. I built mine from 2x4's though. Does the same thing. I'm still dialing mine in as well as no expert. For me I must have my body on the same angle as the feature, and when I don't I know it, as I always land on an edge and slip out toe side and that hurts.

I also try staying more compact rather than straight up this forces me to keep my base flat. Feeling that flat base is huge.

So dont have a ton of tips for you since I'm dialing mine in as well. Keep at it and hope it comes quicker for you than for me
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Old 03-17-2015, 07:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
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How stiff are your boots? If they're too stiff, the twisting of your body (it looks like you don't twist enough) will cause your board to get on edge because your boots won't allow your ankles to flex with your knees enough to keep your board flat. This is what it looks like to me.
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Old 03-17-2015, 10:36 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Thanks. The boots are Burton Ambush from 2013 with about 40-50 days of riding on them (the liners have developed vertical cracks on the sides, probably reducing some of the stiffness). Its rated as a 5 on burton's scale and says it has a decent amount of flex for park work.

It is highly likely that a combination of my *own* lack of flexibility, and the lack of even trying to flex my ankles might have been at fault there.

The more i look at it the more i think about how uncool the whole move looks. Going to try again this weekend and see if i can get any progress or at least video to see what i am doing wrong.
I really wish i had snow and a backyard that i could set something up to just practice over and over, instead of having to restrict it to 1-2 attempts every run through the park (and those park runs being restricted to however long my wife puts up with the park)
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