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post #31 of 41 (permalink) Old 01-29-2013, 03:08 PM
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On bigger spins (definitely 9+ but maybe also on 7s) it's pretty easy to get corked accidentally if you're not using good technique you could end up sideways when you don't want to be.
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That's what I figured originally. I'll be having words with my friend. He seemed to think that the only way to spin faster was to cork it by "popping off the tail" (which I'm still confused about). Hm.
Well basically corking can make certain rotations easier to do because of how easy it is to huck into an off axis spin.

For example, I can huck my lead shoulder towards my back foot off a medium sized 30-40 foot jump and end up in an attempted double cork 1080 spin if I do that movement hard. No carving needed, just literally throwing my shoulder in a specific direction while riding straight off the jump.

There's a lot less worrying about carving and other things used in non-corked spins if you're corking using this method. It basically becomes an exercise in aerial awareness and hucking your shoulder/body in a certain direction as you ride off the jump.

However, the problem is if you start relying on corking to get bigger rotations, you'll start to rely on that cork technique to generate spin instead of advancing your basic spin technique, and it can leave serious gaps in your freestyle ability later.

Definitely a much better idea to learn spins without corking first, then later learn to add off-axis rotations for some flair/style.

Spin technique is one of the most important skills to master in park riding and you definitely don't want to skip progressing it properly.

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I pop off of jumps. I do ollies off of natural features on slopes for fun though. I'm no expert so I usually fall a lot

I do know that a lot of pipe riders ollie off the lips. Even in skateboarding. Tony Hawk used to be called a cheater for ollying off of half pipe lips to get bigger airs. Now everyone does it.

I don't think they olly when they start getting into bigger spins though. I can't imagine how they would olly if they are already initiating a spin before take off.
In skateboard vert the ollie they do is about getting the board into their hands for the grab so the board doesn't fly away. It won't give you any extra height. Anything that gives you height while flat (popping/ollie) will push you away from the coping/edge on a vert and you drop to flat. Having done it at a concrete park while messing around on an oververt, it sucks.


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Didn't want to make a new threat so here we go.

I always liked to bomb hill, carving, high speed, powder, always in control, but I'm total noob in park and kickers. BA in his website always speaks about boards ability or inability to boost of the lip of the kicker. How to do and feel that? With pop or ollie or sth different?

I mainly ask on this because 1. i want to learn proper technique, so next season wouldn't end with sth broken, like my last one did. 2 to do that I need to be in control. I remember myself just picking the right speed, approach straight and be compact, don't remember trying po pop or ollie of the lip, but will do that next season, at least try to do that.
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Am I the only person who has taken a freestyle lesson and was told to not pop or ollie when going off a jump? This was mainly for grabs. The instructor said the only time he pops/ollies is when he doesn't have enough speed. Or do you have to pop when starting 3s and other spins?
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Am I the only person who has taken a freestyle lesson and was told to not pop or ollie when going off a jump? This was mainly for grabs. The instructor said the only time he pops/ollies is when he doesn't have enough speed. Or do you have to pop when starting 3s and other spins?
If I'm hitting a big jump I don't pop or ollie. I just let the lip at the end up the jump do it's thing and send me flying. Smaller jumps I'll pop to get some extra air, and I ollie off rollers just because it's fun.

I'm by no means an authority on jumps, and don't spend much time in the park though, so my take on it really doesn't hold any value.
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If I'm hitting a big jump I don't pop or ollie. I just let the lip at the end up the jump do it's thing and send me flying. Smaller jumps I'll pop to get some extra air, and I ollie off rollers just because it's fun.

I'm by no means an authority on jumps, and don't spend much time in the park though, so my take on it really doesn't hold any value.
That's good information though. I got comfortable on 10 ish ft jumps and never popped or ollied. I tried a 15 ft ish a few times and that was pretty nuts for myself. I'll keep those tips in mind for this upcoming winter.
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