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Old 12-18-2010, 08:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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well I just consistent FS 360s and I'm kinda concerned on how I do them. I do the whole setup carve and go off the lip on my heel edge. Thats fine but when I actually do the spin I throw my weight and right as I get to 270 I stop. Then I do a shifty and land it fine on my toe side edge. This is the first part that concerns me the second is that I really want to learn FS 5s and I'm having trouble rotating past 270
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Old 12-18-2010, 09:27 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Just keep looking over your shoulder to keep your rotation speed. Try grabbing indy to keep yourself tucked up too.
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Old 12-18-2010, 10:00 AM   #3 (permalink)
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yeah throwing in a grab sounds like a good idea because i'm pretty sure I don't bring my legs up
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can you spin 360 standing still and strapped in? Practice that.
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Old 12-18-2010, 06:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
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well I just consistent FS 360s and I'm kinda concerned on how I do them. I do the whole setup carve and go off the lip on my heel edge. Thats fine but when I actually do the spin I throw my weight and right as I get to 270 I stop. Then I do a shifty and land it fine on my toe side edge. This is the first part that concerns me the second is that I really want to learn FS 5s and I'm having trouble rotating past 270
The way I understand it, your body as a whole is not really "stopping at 270" as that would be impossible. You can "slow" it if you like stretch out your arms...similar to how a diver goes from a ball to straight (i.e. increase moment of inertia), but this is prolly not what's happening here.

Perhaps what you are doing is that at 270, you are twisting your head and shoulders toward the direction of travel quickly...in order to look at the landing perhaps. What this can do is make your board twist in the OPPOSITE direction. But since you're net rotating, it's "stalled" relative to the earth. Does that make sense? Newton's 3rd Law: Every action has an equal an opposite reaction.

So (if regular) imagine you are just doing a straight air and your upper body all of the sudden spins CCW. The "equal and opposite reaction" is that your lower body will spin CW simultaneously. You can try this sitting on an office chair. Now make this a spinning air at the right speed and the same scenario...a "faster upper body rotation" causes a "slower/stalled lower body rotation".

The grab would definately help prevent this upper body jerk if this is the case. Either that or just try to keep your shoulders and arms still and just look uphill while landing. It's called landing blind. I mean, not blind as you close your eyes, just look toward the rear of travel.

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Old 12-18-2010, 10:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Frontside spins can be a bitch to overcome this "opening up" issue. I still do it and loose all of my rotation. As you spin, it is so easy to open up at the first 90 when you are facing down the hill. Even a slight hesitation here will slow rotation to the point that you do not get all the way around.

Your setup sounds good (although popping off of the toes for a frontside gives you some extra pop but it is a hard thing to master and your timing is crucial). For now, stay with popping off of the heels and try a little more prewinding to help you spin a little faster and keep your chin planted to your front shoulder through the spin.
I thought popping off your toes for a FS spin was an ally oop and I think those are much harder to rotate I've done a few ally oop FS 180s and they just felt awkward. I realized one thing I do when I go for a 3 sometimes is that I'll open up before I jump. I've been practicing my 360s on a very small jump just so I can get my body to memorize the motion for the bigger jumps. I think the hardest part for me is not opening up at 270 because I have my FS 180s on lock i can do them off the biggest jump in my park which sadly is about 10ft and I can do just about any grab with it.

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can you spin 360 standing still and strapped in? Practice that.
yeah thats easy I can 3 onto box rails no problem but it seems like my body doesn't like the bigger jumps
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