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Old 12-25-2010, 09:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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im sure that snowolf knows what im talking about and knows the answer but here is my question for everyone. So the other day i went boarding with one of my friends from school for the first time. She skis and used to race legit. i could keep up with her when i was flat based but could not if i was trying to carve. She was carving across the mountain like it was her job and going incredibly fast. When i was talking to her she said that through racing she has learned to increase her speed by turning. the question is, whenever i turn i feel that i am slowing down and lose speed. there must be some way for me to increase or maintain my speed through deep turns like she was doing, i just dont know how to go about achieving this
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Old 12-25-2010, 10:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Today was my first day of the year. When I was going fast, I bent my knees, pushed down hard and kept carving left and right but going straight and keeping my upper body still. If your skidding(throwing up alot of snow) then Im sure its gonna slow you down alot. I would wait for snowolf's response though since hes good at explaining things
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Old 12-25-2010, 10:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You probably are not doing pure carve when you turn. That will slow you down. Other variables like ski length (snow contact length), turn radius will also affect speed and stability.
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Sounds like you are doing skidded turns and scrubbing off speed as a result. A true carve will only leave a pencil thin line in the snow because the entire effective edge stays on the same plane during the turn. Carving takes a lot of practice to master.
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Old 12-26-2010, 12:08 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Was she pumping through the turns to build momentum?
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Old 12-26-2010, 12:15 AM   #6 (permalink)
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she was pumping slightly but it seemed like she was just bouncing back and fourth, when i tried to imitate it i was sliding somewhat which was scraping some of my speed, now that i think of it i never really keep my body centered when trying to carve, i do more of a lean. thanks for all the help, im sure i will be going again soon and will try to stay centered and only use my edge
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Old 12-26-2010, 08:05 AM   #7 (permalink)
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If you are carving and carving correctly, you will accelerate through your turns not slow down. One of the thing to work on here is making your edge change sooner; before the board crosses the fall line. When you rock onto your downhill edge early so that a person above you on the hill can clearly see the base of your board, you will explosively rocket though your turns.

One of the most difficult things to do when you want to do high speed carving is to not skid at the bottom of your turns. One thing in your statement provides some clue to where part of your difficulty lies. You said you are leaning into the turns. While this is a great start for basic carved turns, it will never allow you to generate the speed you are desiring. For that you must progress beyond inclinated, basic carved turns in favor of angulated dynamic carved turns.

In a dynamic carved turn, you do not lean the body to tilt the board onto its edge, you use the ankles, knees and hips to tilt the board while you maintain a quiet upper body over the top of the board. In addition, the use of down unweighting to make the edge change as opposed to up unweighting is a key component. You want to eliminate any maneuver that adds drag and pushing against your board to pop off the snow in an up unweighted maneuver robs energy which equates to speed.

Back to avoiding skid at the bottom of your turns..... The reason everyone skids at the bottom of any turn is because this is where all of the energies developed throughout a turn all come together. You have your momentum down the hill, gravity pulling you down the hill and centrifugal forcing pulling you to the outside of the turn. If you are using an inclination in your carving technique, you will be too stiff and erect to have the required "light touch" to prevent the edge from breaking loose at the bottom of your turn.

Now, if you work the top of the turn better by switch to the downhill edge early and setting that edge hold good through angulation, you can then extend slowly at the top of the turn to precisely regulate speed early and as your enter the fall line, you begin to flex through the bottom of the turn. this allows you to reduce some of these forces at the most crucial point in the turn and absorb any chatter that can break your edge free and create skid. Even a little skid will turn a carve into a "scarve" and that will scrub a lot of your speed.

So, start playing around with dynamic carving and get proficient at it. Then, you will feel the thrill of rapid acceleration through your turns while still having control of your board....
Wow, what a great breakdown of technique. I don't usually try to go as fast as possible down the hill, but your description of the weighting/unweighting points sounds exactly opposite of what I've been doing.
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thanks so much this is exactly what i was looking for. will definitely try to work on this next time out. Thanks again
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When you do start working on dynamic carving, pick open, blue terrain where you can start with large to medium radius turns and become comfortable with making these early edge changes where you will not build up speed too quickly for your own comfort. ....
Wolf...you have no idea how better that is on my A-Frame...compared to my old board..that thing is a carving knife for snow...it bounces you out at the apex of the turn, and if you get the rebound-timing right the next turmn is going to make you grin...it the board pops up and pushes you up as you switch edge....
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I'm starting to be able to feel out carves.. like once you are straight on that edge, it feels so much smoother... and it starts to feel like you're mashing the NOS buttons in.
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