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Old 01-01-2011, 12:33 PM   #11 (permalink)
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So not past the knuckle but that is where we all start at. The first time you make it past the knuckle will be an amazing and scary expirience. When grabbing remember to bring the board up, not reach down for it.
big tip for rails more speed means less balance is required, unless your hitting kinkers.
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Old 01-01-2011, 02:00 PM   #12 (permalink)
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more speed the better. it'll feel too fast but it's the right move. Much better to land past the knuckle than on it. Try also ollieing - popping the back of your tail rigght befhore take off should get you higher up.

that jump isn't that high from what it seems but just very long. need some good speed.
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Old 01-02-2011, 05:41 PM   #13 (permalink)
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At your stage of hitting jumps, it would be nice if your park crew would put two ramps on that table top. One like this that pops a rider high and a shallower one that gives the rider more distance without so much height. I find that I can go a lot faster and "bigger" on jumps that have the option for a flatter trajectory. I am no comfortable being really high off of the ground and this has less to do with my lack of riding ability than it does with a lifelong fear of heights (unless in a plane).
THat's where I am too - it's not that I don't like being high off the ground, rather I do not like the feeling of getting tossed in the air; those big wedges really throw you - most parks around me have the two-stage wedge so I can take the lower trajectory and I'm much more comfortable hitting that at speed and clearing the jump.
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Until you get enough air to land on the downhill part of the jump, hitting that jump is going to be a little awkward since your landing on a flat. When your able to land riding downhill, it keeps your inertia moving so your landing will be really smooth compared with dropping on a flat which causes most of your inertia to stop and instead stresses your muscles.

Make sure not to get too much air and clear the downhill though! I did that once on a jump that size and it was not fun... The impact was too much so I washed out and slammed my hip pretty hard.
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Make sure not to get too much air and clear the downhill though! I did that once on a jump that size and it was not fun... The impact was too much so I washed out and slammed my hip pretty hard.
Overshot the landing last March came down on the flat same thing - hit my ass/hip so hard it knocked me out cold for about 30-45 seconds. When I came to of course I rode to the bottom of the run but don't remember any of that and I was talking complete nonsense. It really rung my bell... I think there's a video of it somewhere around here...

My whole right ass & hip were bruised badly and it was hard to walk for a few days. Rough. I'm still trying to shake off the "fear" that jump put in my brain last year. Not fun.
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Make sure not to get too much air and clear the downhill though! I did that once on a jump that size and it was not fun... The impact was too much so I washed out and slammed my hip pretty hard.
My knee hit me in my eye and i saw sideways for a good 30 min
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I would look at night vision goggles if that first pic is anything to go by!

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I'm almost at the same point in my progression, though the jumps I'm trying are a bit smaller. I've gotten to the point where I can almost completely clear the tabletop, just kissing off the end of it before hitting downward slope (with a split second whoa feeling in between as I hit the downward transition).

The thing is, I've wiped hard every time I've actually hit the downward slope on the landing. It seems to happen so fast I'm not even sure how I'm landing, but I do end up eating snow with my face when it happens. I can only describe the feeling as it seems my body is expecting that it should have already landed at a certain point but the ground is continuing to fall away from me so that is screwing up my brain somehow. The wipe outs of course put the fear of the jump back in me so I end up back to tabletop landings again until I build up enough courage for the next wipeout.

I'll have to try the faux toe side grab suggestion, but I'm hoping at some point things start to "slow" down through repetition and I can actually maybe start to become more aware of what I'm doing while I'm in the air. Also, is landing on the tabletop all the time actually counterproductive to learning since it's a bit different than landing on the downward slope? Glad I discovered this site btw.
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I'm almost at the same point in my progression...The thing is, I've wiped hard every time I've actually hit the downward slope on the landing. It seems to happen so fast I'm not even sure how I'm landing, but I do end up eating snow with my face when it happens.
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YouTube - RJ's faceplant

See this was obviously off-balanced and although he didn't make it to the knuckle, when you describe what's happening to you this is what came to mind immediately.

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I'll have to try the faux toe side grab suggestion, but I'm hoping at some point things start to "slow" down through repetition and I can actually maybe start to become more aware of what I'm doing while I'm in the air. Also, is landing on the tabletop all the time actually counterproductive to learning since it's a bit different than landing on the downward slope? Glad I discovered this site btw.
If you're landing on your face every time then most likely you're going off the lip off-balanced. Anther possibility is that you're catching an edge as soon as you land, so you're landing off-balanced. I think this is less-likely of the two. In any event When you go off the jump bring your knees up towards your chest don't straigten out right away; focus on staying balanced and centered above your board when you approach the lip and go for the landing.
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Like this?

YouTube - RJ's faceplant

See this was obviously off-balanced and although he didn't make it to the knuckle, when you describe what's happening to you this is what came to mind immediately.
Haha you know I can't rule out that that is what is happening to me. I wish I could see myself to see what is happening.

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If you're landing on your face every time then most likely you're going off the lip off-balanced. Anther possibility is that you're catching an edge as soon as you land, so you're landing off-balanced. I think this is less-likely of the two. In any event When you go off the jump bring your knees up towards your chest don't straigten out right away; focus on staying balanced and centered above your board when you approach the lip and go for the landing.
I seem to be landing on the tabletop ok, so if I'm off balance at launch, I'm wondering if I subconsciously freaking out a little by the increase speed needed to clear the tabletop which is affecting my launch. Thanks for the tips.
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