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Old 01-19-2011, 11:39 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Exactly. I still remember how I would be traversing on my toeside, i kept looking down the hill (at a spot where I DIDN"T want to go), and it just kept carving down (or whatever the word you use skid, carve..)until I say to myself, okay enough already, if I don't skid stop toeside, i'll either drift all the way into the otherside of the fence (terrain park) or I'll have to just fall and stop
Well, I don't have Snowolf's knowledge of technique details, but I can tell you one thing -- you'll always go where you're looking. If you're looking where you don't want to go, you're gonna go there.
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Old 01-22-2011, 09:21 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Just came back from the mountains and it is much better this time! I was able to get to a long green run and link my turns. The first few times, I had to bring my toe side turn to almost a complete stop , horizontal to the slope, then think in my head, relax front toe edge, keep rear toe edge engaged, nose start to turn, i flatten the board by relaxing my rear foot and immediate do my heel side turn.
Then I was able to do it without the pause/stop.
But this doesn't happen all the time, I fell alot less on the green runs.

Went with a friend and she really wanted to try the blue runs *totally regret this*.... I went with her, I was freakn out on the ski lift, it was fast and so high up (afraid of height here). Then I started the decent, for the life of me, I just cannot convince myself to do the toe side at all, and when I do, I fall immediately, i can't even tell you how that happened. It was just too steep for me at this stage.
I also happened to rendenered myself into a cat track and having absolutely no clue what to do. i was able to get thru it, but got stuck in an area where I could fall down a steep cliff, and then comes a hella steep slope, i can barely convince myself to be able to stand up with my board in the middle of this slope... totally freaked out. But now, I have this experience (i actually tried this twice), will go back to the greens and practice.

I really don't quite understand why the speed freaks me out so bad and why its taking me so long to learn this!
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Old 01-22-2011, 09:55 PM   #23 (permalink)
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It is very key at this point to not put yourself into these type of situations. Personally I would have un-buckled and walked down.
Stay with the gentler slopes till you start to become more comfortable. I still don't ride many black trails, I can, it's just not what I enjoy.
Keep working on the fundementals, then progress to the harder terrian trails.
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Old 01-22-2011, 10:54 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Fayewolf,

I am having some of the same problems you are having. I have posted some videos of my progress for Snowolf to help me out and it has helped. I have been run into by other snowboarders while going to my toe edge and falling. After that I can't tell you how long it takes me to get up the nerve to try toe edge again. I posted in the video yesterday of the guy coming out of nowhere and sure enough, it happened again today but with a girl running into me. I was having a hard time going from toe edge to heel edge and my problem was I was not squatting while starting the turn and extending into the turn. I have remedied that with Snowolf's advise and today was even better than yesterday. Going to toe side has been easier to me, once I get up the nerve to it. I traverse alot on my heelside getting up the courage to go toeside! lol Today I really started linking my turns quicker and really got the timing down, but didn't get any video today because it was on the wrong setting. My husband was so upset with himself as you could really see the progression I made today on the videos. And by the way, I'm trying to learn this at 50! lol Here are the links to the video last week and the one from yesterday. I can't wait to try again tomorrow.

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Old 01-22-2011, 11:14 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Fayewolf,

I am having some of the same problems you are having. I have posted some videos of my progress for Snowolf to help me out and it has helped. I have been run into by other snowboarders while going to my toe edge and falling. After that I can't tell you how long it takes me to get up the nerve to try toe edge again. I posted in the video yesterday of the guy coming out of nowhere and sure enough, it happened again today but with a girl running into me. I was having a hard time going from toe edge to heel edge and my problem was I was not squatting while starting the turn and extending into the turn. I have remedied that with Snowolf's advise and today was even better than yesterday. Going to toe side has been easier to me, once I get up the nerve to it. I traverse alot on my heelside getting up the courage to go toeside! lol Today I really started linking my turns quicker and really got the timing down, but didn't get any video today because it was on the wrong setting. My husband was so upset with himself as you could really see the progression I made today on the videos. And by the way, I'm trying to learn this at 50! lol Here are the links to the video last week and the one from yesterday. I can't wait to try again tomorrow.

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Dang, those are really good!!! I wish i can be smooth like you!! I'm frankly quite frustrated, I'm usually fairly good with sorts, but for some reason, snowboarding is so difficult!

Did you have a turning point/breaking point? How long did you stay in greens before you get comfortable to go onto the blues?
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I've been a skier for only 4 years and was finding that difficult to master. I am not one who likes to go fast and skiing would BURN my thighs. When the conditions would get slushy I just couldn't go fast in those conditions and was basically just plowing down the mile run - which when I got to the bottom my thighs were screaming at me to stop. My husband started snowboarding 3 years ago and he says he likes it better than skiing. When you get to a steep hill you if you don't feel comfortable you can just falling leaf it down, which sounded good to me. He never talks about his thighs screaming at him, so, for my 50th birthday I decided to give it a try, lost 50 pounds and my first time on a snowboard was Thanksgiving Day 2010. It has not come easy to me at all! I can only do about 2 hours a day before I am wiped out so two weekends to me is like 1 day to a regular person! lol The run in the video is one mile green run. I have not ventured to blues as at our resort they are pretty steep for me - I had a hell of a time on the blues even with skis. Today was my best day, and as I said I have no video which is a bummer as I had a really good faceplant that I did today! lol I got a good rhythm going and was linking my turns so much closer together and found out that by doing that you can control your speed more - funny how it takes you to get to this point to control your speed. Will try to post tomorrow and you can sure tell the difference just in these past 2 weekends. Keep at it!
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I've been a skier for only 4 years and was finding that difficult to master. I am not one who likes to go fast and skiing would BURN my thighs. When the conditions would get slushy I just couldn't go fast in those conditions and was basically just plowing down the mile run - which when I got to the bottom my thighs were screaming at me to stop. My husband started snowboarding 3 years ago and he says he likes it better than skiing. When you get to a steep hill you if you don't feel comfortable you can just falling leaf it down, which sounded good to me. He never talks about his thighs screaming at him, so, for my 50th birthday I decided to give it a try, lost 50 pounds and my first time on a snowboard was Thanksgiving Day 2010. It has not come easy to me at all! I can only do about 2 hours a day before I am wiped out so two weekends to me is like 1 day to a regular person! lol The run in the video is one mile green run. I have not ventured to blues as at our resort they are pretty steep for me - I had a hell of a time on the blues even with skis. Today was my best day, and as I said I have no video which is a bummer as I had a really good faceplant that I did today! lol I got a good rhythm going and was linking my turns so much closer together and found out that by doing that you can control your speed more - funny how it takes you to get to this point to control your speed. Will try to post tomorrow and you can sure tell the difference just in these past 2 weekends. Keep at it!
You go girl!!! Not ever been on snow ever before this year, i think might be a bit of disadvantage! I did falling leaf all the way down the blues since that was the only way i could've get down, walking down was too steep, i just sucked it up and do it . I can't even tell you how long those runs were, but I suspect they are fairly long. I would love to see your new video!!
My thighs were burning because I had to go down falling leaf on my heels and had to use it to control my speed. Yikes.. i really want to be able to do this at ease!!
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Old 01-23-2011, 05:43 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Same problem as both of you. I am now much more comfortable with my toe side turns after having made myself ride more on toe side yesterday, but the hardest part for me is going back to my heel side. I know that I need to keep my weight forward and stay low, because when I do that it seems to help. The speed I am still trying to get used to, so I have tried to practice going (nearly) straight on easy European blues with a little toe edge to prevent edge catches.

I think my biggest problem is finding easy slopes that are wide with no steep sections or narrow cat tracks. The place I went to yesterday it took me a couple hours just to find a place to practice that didn't have sections where I end up wasting my time falling leaf down portions of it. Then at the end of the day, when I had to go down a harder blue to get back to the base of the mountain, it was near closing time so there were 1,000 snowboarders passing right by me going Mach 10

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Old 01-24-2011, 12:27 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Fayewolf, here is my video from this morning. This was the last of 7 one mile runs of the day before I had to head home from excitment and exhaustion! lol I can't believe the difference from last Sunday's video prior to Snowolfs posted advice to this morning. One thing, I do have a flat rocker board which I was advised to get by the pro shop as it does not catch edges as easy as a camber board and due to my age and how I am not interested in jumps, rails, jibs, etc. etc. etc. and just want to get down green/blue runs they recommended it, however, it can be squirrely when flat on the ground which I had to get used to. My husband got one also and LOVES it compared to the camber board he had. They also say that you can progress faster on the flat rocker boards than a camber board and I was all for that! And after the "arm" advice and the leg extension on my back edge, I feel I made a huge improvement from last Sunday. Keep at it and keep posting your progress - I'd love to read the updates.

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Old 01-24-2011, 12:49 AM   #30 (permalink)
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It really is amazing!! Love how smooth and consistent your turns are! I just don't know if I will ever get there, i don't live very close to the mountains. I see that you are using your front hand to point where you are going does that really help? I"m going to give that a try.

I don't know what the difference is in board. I have absolutely no interest in jumps, tricks/rails/box, whatever they do in the terrain park. My goal is the same as yours, being ableto cruise down the blues and greens. Maybe I'll look into getting a rocker board too, I have no idea what that is though. Which model did you get?

Oh, so I'm not sure if i actually squat down when I do my heel side turn, but i'm still having a bit of a problem turning toe side. Now most of the time I'm able to do it, but it takes me a long time to make a turn, like I would traverse on my heel side for a long time, take a deep breath, omg omg omg, release my front heel edge, then my dreaded moment when my board is flat for one second, i dip my shoulder and dig my shin onto my boots, i flet like I'm leaning my shoulder ALOT onto my front foot (I'm goofy, so this is my right shoulder onto my right foot), then add my rear foot toe edge.
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