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Old 01-24-2011, 06:17 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Not sure this will help but visualize and think like in chess. Maybe try thinking several steps ahead for those turns.
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Old 01-24-2011, 02:57 PM   #32 (permalink)
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It really is amazing!! Love how smooth and consistent your turns are! I just don't know if I will ever get there, i don't live very close to the mountains. I see that you are using your front hand to point where you are going does that really help? I"m going to give that a try.

I don't know what the difference is in board. I have absolutely no interest in jumps, tricks/rails/box, whatever they do in the terrain park. My goal is the same as yours, being ableto cruise down the blues and greens. Maybe I'll look into getting a rocker board too, I have no idea what that is though. Which model did you get?

Oh, so I'm not sure if i actually squat down when I do my heel side turn, but i'm still having a bit of a problem turning toe side. Now most of the time I'm able to do it, but it takes me a long time to make a turn, like I would traverse on my heel side for a long time, take a deep breath, omg omg omg, release my front heel edge, then my dreaded moment when my board is flat for one second, i dip my shoulder and dig my shin onto my boots, i flet like I'm leaning my shoulder ALOT onto my front foot (I'm goofy, so this is my right shoulder onto my right foot), then add my rear foot toe edge.
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Mar arm is up because Snowolf saw that I was always looking down the hill an not leaning my shoulders towards my turns. With my arm up I look at my hand and when I go to toe edge I move my arm to the toe side of the board and my shoulder then moves to the toe side and I look at my hand which turns my head. Being a skier, I was stuck in always wanting to face forward and always looking down the hill. But I've been there like you being on my heelside and traversing all the way getting up the nerve to go to my toe edge and then falling numerous times - not to mention going to toe side and having errant snowboarders running into me! lol I found it best while going to my toe edge for me to think about popping up and thrusting my hips forward and arching my back. When I put too much weight on my front foot on toe edge I tended to fall or it would start carving and then I'd lose control. I'm not at the "carving" stage and when I accidentally start carving it really throws your weight off and usually I would fall. I've done it heelside where I started carving and then went out of control also. So, when practicing I would start by coming to almost a complete stop on my heelside, slowly lift off the pressure from your front foot to start the board going downhill, move your arm to the toe side and then put pressure on my toes, pop up and extend with my hips pushed toward the hill and arching my back. It took me awhile to start to go to toe edge with more speed. I would always come to an almost complete stop before I tried toe edge so I was not going fast and could complete the turn. We all learning differently so this is just my take, I'm no expert yet! lol

As for the board, here is a link to look at.

Rocker Guide - What is "Rocker" and why does it matter? | evo

They make Banana boards, reverse camber boards and the new ones are hybrids now which isn't listed. I have the flat rocker and the front and back ends are bowed up slightly and flat in the middle. My camber board was bowed up in the middle and that is I guess where you would catch edges. I asked for advise on the Boards section here because they said flat rocker boards are good for park riding which I wasn't going to be doing. But then "Nefarious" said it would be good for what I wanted, just cruising down the mountain in greens/blues like in my video. In the end, I went with Nefarious's advice and went ahead and got it. The first day I only used it twice and I wasn't thrilled with it. Then went back to my regular camber board and caught the edges so much that the next day I tried the flat rocker out again and I did much better. My husband kept telling me to stick with it as he noticed how much easier it is for him to snowboard on the flat rocker than on his camber board. Now I love it - I'm a converter! lol

Hope this helps!
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Old 01-24-2011, 11:45 PM   #33 (permalink)
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So, when practicing I would start by coming to almost a complete stop on my heelside, slowly lift off the pressure from your front foot to start the board going downhill, move your arm to the toe side and then put pressure on my toes, pop up and extend with my hips pushed toward the hill and arching my back. It took me awhile to start to go to toe edge with more speed. I would always come to an almost complete stop before I tried toe edge so I was not going fast and could complete the turn. We all learning differently so this is just my take, I'm no expert yet! lol
Yes, that's what I'm doing as well. I almost come to a complete stop on my heel side. The problem is sometimes my heel edge "overshoots" and I ended up have to go heel side on my other foot and try again... going from toe side edge to heel side edge, I don't really have to go to a stop. I don't know why, so weird.

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That aiming with the front arm thing is a training aid that helps the new rider to position their upper body correctly for each turn.

For your heelside, definitely sit down into it a bit; this weights the heel edge without the problems of leaning back over the edge. It keeps your body weight stacked over the board and keeps maximum edge pressure on your heel edge.

On your toe side turns, it is good that you are positioning the shoulder, but don`t forget to flex that front leg. Think of driving the front knee down towards the snow and also pull it back toward your rear foot to add some rotational force. "down and back" is what you should be thinking.
Thank you snowolf! The shoulder dipping is helping tremendously. What is difficult for me is thrusting my hip forward. When I dip my shoulder to my front foot (right foot since I ride goofy), i also lean my shoulder into the big toe of that foot. so, my shoulder is kind of pushed forward towards the uphill and my entire body is leaning forward, when my shoulders are drived downwards, it's difficult to thrust my hip forward when my shoulder (upper body) is already leaning forward, is this wrong?
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Old 01-24-2011, 11:56 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Yes, that's what I'm doing as well. I almost come to a complete stop on my heel side. The problem is sometimes my heel edge "overshoots" and I ended up have to go heel side on my other foot and try again... going from toe side edge to heel side edge, I don't really have to go to a stop. I don't know why, so weird.

Yes, I was doing that also a few weeks ago. I would overshoot and have to "falling leaf" it the other way and then come back and try to go to toe side again. I basically did the whole run going to toe side then back to heel side, overshoot and falling leave it to the other foot and then back to my front foot to set up for the toe edge turn. I just kept at it and once I figured out I was overshooting because I was not fully extended while on my heel side I don't overshoot near as much. Now it is the terrain and lopsided hills that will make me overshoot sometimes.

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