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Trick terminology?

I've got the names of actual features down now, but some trick terms are still eluding me:

Cab ____?
What's a McTwist?
Corked ___?
Melon grab vs. method grab vs. stalefish grab?
rodeo?

I think that's about all the ones i don't know that I can't figure out.
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cab comes from skateboarding its short for caballerial. its a fakie 360 (cab 5, cab 7, cab 9 etc.)where you pop off you nose while riding switch (popping of what would normally be your tail) a mctwist is an inverted 540 (its a weird twist of you shoulders so its not actually a flip but its inverted) a cork is where you do a backwards flip within a minimum rotation of 540. a melon is when you grab your backside edge inbetween your bindings with your forward hand, a method is a tweaked melon, you bend your knees so that your board is perpendicular to the ground, and a stalefish is basically doing a melon with your back hand, but most people tweak it 90 and grab near their back foot.

oh i forgot about rodeos, i dont even know how to explain it so heres a video of a back rodeo 5 (dont ask me how its a 540 but it is)

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so a switch + nollie + rotation = cab XYZ? interesting.

and yeah, that doesn't look like a 540 to me, and all i can tell is that most rodeo vids look like a straight up backflip to me, so that doesn't usually help much :/

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I've got the names of actual features down now, but some trick terms are still eluding me:

Cab ____?
What's a McTwist?
Corked ___?
Melon grab vs. method grab vs. stalefish grab?
rodeo?

I think that's about all the ones i don't know that I can't figure out.
Cab is any switch frontside spin, named after Steve Caballero a trick that came from skateboarding. A half cab is a switch frontside 180

A McTwist is sort of a frontflip with a 540 rotation usually performed on the frontside wall of a half-pipe. McTwist

A melon grab is where the front hand grabs the heel edge of the board near the front binding. you can grab right in front of the binding or right after the binding. Just don't grab too close the nose, that is considered bad style.

A method grab is a tweaked melon grab where you bone (extend) out the back leg and push the board down the hill. There are probably 3 famous method grabs, the Terje method grab, the jamie lynn method and the Lindsey Jacobellis method grab (you know where you are in the lead on the last jump towards a gold medal, do a method on the last jump, fall and finish in 2nd ). Considered the pinnacle grab that defines your style. how to do a method grab with pat moore ttr video about the method

A stalefish is where the back hand grabs the heel edge in between the bindings. In order to make the grab a little easier and to add lots of style you sort of turn the board 90 degrees (down the hill) and then do the grab. stalefish in halfpipe stalefish

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one other question... why do people's free hands always go way away from them during a grab? like in the pics you posted... stalefish grabs the front hand is like way up above their head and stuff?
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to look better for pictures... stability in the air... honestly i have no clue
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one other question... why do people's free hands always go way away from them during a grab? like in the pics you posted... stalefish grabs the front hand is like way up above their head and stuff?
it just sortof happens naturally. alot of good riders will force themselves to keep their hands down... (Torstein Horgmo) but some dont bother (T rice)

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a mctwist is an inverted 540 (its a weird twist of you shoulders so its not actually a flip but its inverted) a cork is where you do a backwards flip within a minimum rotation of 540.
Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is a McTwist is a forward flipping backside spin with a melon grab and a minimum spin of 540. You basically end up throwing your front shoulder diagonally towards your rear foot while grabbing melon (Front hand between bindings) and with a front flip. Also a corked spin is basically any off axis spin, with a corked spin you either throw your shoulders away (Frontside) or towards (Basckside) your rear foot. Then lastly a rodeo is corked spin that is either frontside or backside with a backflip (Kind of the opposite of a McTwist). This is where i might be wrong but... A corked spin technically isn't actually a inverted maneuver unless the spin is performed in a pipe(?) because your trajectory is straight up and down (Well more diagonally down the piped).

Couple Examples:
FS Rodeo 540:


FS Cork 540 (Title Is Wrong):


BS Rodeo 540:


BS Cork 540:


Double Corks are basically when you end up sideways (Corked) two times and the degrees it's spun along with all the examples above depends on how hard you throw the spin.

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If you want to go technical a mctwist is a a forward flipping backside 540 hit in a halfpipe, originally for us old-schoolers it was only if you grabbed mute (front hand, toeside edge, between feet). To me a melon grab (short for melancholy) isn't just a heelside grab with your front hand, it's tweaking out your front leg while doing it. Otherwise it'd be a lien grab. So many people have different opinions so it's kinda hit or miss with a lot of stuff.

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