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Old 02-08-2011, 11:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I learned to do toeside turns during my last visit to the mountain, and now I can do linked turns. But I do not know if I am doing "real" turns or just skidded turns. What is the difference and how can I tell which one I am doing? Is a "real" non-skidded turn just the same thing as a carve?
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Skidded turns are real turns. Carve turns are real turns. It just depends on how your board travels across the snow. With a carve turn you are riding the edge with the nose and tail of the board following the same path. A skidded turn is where the nose and tail of the board travel in different paths creating a skid or crescent moon shape in the snow. Just work on the rhythm and size of your turns for now and don't worry about carve or skidded until they feel really comfortable.
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So, just to be clear there is no type of turn other than Skidded and Carved, correct?
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A "real" turn, or I guess a better way of putting it is a "proper" turn, is initiated with your front foot and followed through with your back foot after the turns been initiated. A skidded turn is mostly initiated with your back foot. Thats at least how I was taught. For a proper turn you put pressure on your toe or heel respectively and once the edge cuts the snow and you start to turn you briefly add some pressure to the respective edge of your back foot to finish the carve. However, a skidded turn is often done with the weight mostly on the front foot and initiating the turn with the toe/heel of your back foot.... which, as you'll learn pretty quickly, gives a MUCH less controlled turn. Hope that helps out
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A "real" turn, or I guess a better way of putting it is a "proper" turn, is initiated with your front foot and followed through with your back foot after the turns been initiated. A skidded turn is mostly initiated with your back foot. Thats at least how I was taught. For a proper turn you put pressure on your toe or heel respectively and once the edge cuts the snow and you start to turn you briefly add some pressure to the respective edge of your back foot to finish the carve. However, a skidded turn is often done with the weight mostly on the front foot and initiating the turn with the toe/heel of your back foot.... which, as you'll learn pretty quickly, gives a MUCH less controlled turn. Hope that helps out
Regardless of the type of turning you are doing the front foot should always initiate the turn. A skidded turn means you are using more rotation which will cause a pivot in the board like a fan spinning. Turning will typically always be front foot initates back foot finishes. Otherwise it is like driving a forklift. slow to respond and more difficult to steer then a car.
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So, just to be clear there is no type of turn other than Skidded and Carved, correct?
There are other manners of turning. But as far as shape made in the snow not really. I suggest doing a search on the site for cross-over and cross-under. Which are differences in where a person's CM(center of mass) moves in relation to the board.
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Don`t know if it can actually be classified as a type of turn, but I was thinking that Leapers might be a possible third type...what do you think...
On the first post oh heck yeah. That and nose manuals. we also try them in the bumps which is hilarious to watch. A lot of our clinics at our mountain are about having fun and exploring movements on the board. Which then we tie back into our regular riding and teaching. Keeps them fresh and interesting.

I'm not so sure. Seeing as on a Leaper(if i'm thinking of the same task) you are usually riding a carve or skid through the control phase of the turn it is more or less just a more ballistic way to change edges at the transition vs a manner of turn in relation to board path in the snow. I think Dolphin turns might get closer to being a different manner of turn as far as board path.
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Can you both explain those Dolphin and Leaper techniques/terms. Probably I've done them myself but don't know the name of it, want to read about it more
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Can you both explain those Dolphin and Leaper techniques/terms. Probably I've done them myself but don't know the name of it, want to read about it more
Dolphin Turn :
This is making an ollie movement to change edges in a turn down the hill. Example: heelside nose lifts of snow first then heelside tail , then nose toeside lands and then tail toeside and so forth. Think of a dolphin jumping out of the water.

Leaper Turn:
Jumping to initiate each turn. Usually popping off of both feet and land on your new edge with both feet.

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There are a million ways to turn a snowboard, and no way to put it in words......
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