newbie questions about angles and carving? - Snowboarding Forum

vivithemage · 02-25-2011, 12:34 PM

What should I angle my bindings at? I have tried a few ... like 5/5, 10/10, 15/15 and the difference I can feel, but is it right?

I got used to my cartels + 2010 hero 158, but I just got a 158W 2011 hero with burton exile EST bindings, and it feels like riding a totally different board. I can't carve anymore, haha. I wasn't very good at carving anyhow, any advice? I ride normal stance.

I really learned how to carve on powder, so when I get on abused/icey runs, I really suck, and my toes/ankles start to hurt from carving one direction so much, since I cannot carve.

KIRKRIDER · 02-25-2011, 01:07 PM

Whatever feels more comfortable to you. I ride +15 / + 12 most days, +12 / + 6 on a deep pow day. You should not carve in pow..as soon as your edge bitres it you will slow down too much...glide-turn over it and keep you nose up.
Groomers are for fast edge carves...

vivithemage · 02-25-2011, 01:10 PM

Power is what I find easy, it's ice/groomed I have a hard time, because there seems to be less support/cushion....I just cannot carve on the stuff.

Officer Shred · 02-25-2011, 01:23 PM

Info on angles here: Snowboard Setup - Stance | Boardworld

Carving in powder isn't really carving, it's more like surfing. Carving on hard packed / bumpy snow requires more technical edging and pressure control.

Read from here all the way down to 'CARVING': Improving Performance | Boardworld

Hope that helps.

dawalsh · 02-25-2011, 01:27 PM

I'm a beginner too. I started with 12/-3, now I that ride better and start riding swith I change to 15/-9.

vivithemage · 02-25-2011, 01:48 PM

Thanks shred, will look all that info over. I have never had real training/teaching on how to board, just started doing it this year, but I feel I am pretty darn good...just not at carving on hard/packed snow. I want it to be fun, because that is most of Minnesota hills, haha.

Is it common to have your angles at -? my feet are basically pointing outwards 15 in either direction, is that odd?

vivithemage · 02-25-2011, 02:11 PM

wow, that duck stance looks uncomfortable? I was thinking that having your feet point outwards is better, am I wrong in thinking this? Should they be facing inwards?

I always feel unstable going to my heals, I always feel like I am going fall backwards, or cut an edge. When I go to my healside, I always do it fast, maybe that's myissue, slow down, get some speed, then continue the turn/carve to healside.

AIRider · 02-25-2011, 02:20 PM

I tried a forward stance of +21/+6 the other day to try and see if it's easier to turn and it felt weird ... I'm happy at 18/-6 now ...

Officer Shred · 02-25-2011, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by vivithemage

wow, that duck stance looks uncomfortable? I was thinking that having your feet point outwards is better, am I wrong in thinking this? Should they be facing inwards?

I always feel unstable going to my heals, I always feel like I am going fall backwards, or cut an edge. When I go to my healside, I always do it fast, maybe that's myissue, slow down, get some speed, then continue the turn/carve to healside.

Duck stance is both feet pointing outwards, not inwards.

Officer Shred · 02-25-2011, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by vivithemage

Thanks shred, will look all that info over. I have never had real training/teaching on how to board, just started doing it this year, but I feel I am pretty darn good...just not at carving on hard/packed snow. I want it to be fun, because that is most of Minnesota hills, haha.

Is it common to have your angles at -? my feet are basically pointing outwards 15 in either direction, is that odd?

Having a negative angle on your back bindings means it's pointed outwards towards the tail. So both bindings are pointed in the opposite directions. Duck stance is fairly common these days, especially for freestyle. It's a more versatile stance if you want want to ride switch etc. Personally I find it more comfortable too. I ride 15, -15 and it's super comfortable and versatile (for me anyway).

02-25-2011, 12:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
vivithemage Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 19	newbie questions about angles and carving? What should I angle my bindings at? I have tried a few ... like 5/5, 10/10, 15/15 and the difference I can feel, but is it right? I got used to my cartels + 2010 hero 158, but I just got a 158W 2011 hero with burton exile EST bindings, and it feels like riding a totally different board. I can't carve anymore, haha. I wasn't very good at carving anyhow, any advice? I ride normal stance. I really learned how to carve on powder, so when I get on abused/icey runs, I really suck, and my toes/ankles start to hurt from carving one direction so much, since I cannot carve.

02-25-2011, 01:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
KIRKRIDER Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 2,212	Whatever feels more comfortable to you. I ride +15 / + 12 most days, +12 / + 6 on a deep pow day. You should not carve in pow..as soon as your edge bitres it you will slow down too much...glide-turn over it and keep you nose up. Groomers are for fast edge carves... __________________ 2012/13 -12- Kirkwood days Arbor A-Frame 158 2009-10 Jeremy Jones Hovercraft 156, 2011/12 Burton Driver-X K2-Cinch-CTX Subaru WRX 06

02-25-2011, 01:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
Officer Shred Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 109	Info on angles here: Snowboard Setup - Stance \| Boardworld Carving in powder isn't really carving, it's more like surfing. Carving on hard packed / bumpy snow requires more technical edging and pressure control. Read from here all the way down to 'CARVING': Improving Performance \| Boardworld Hope that helps. __________________ http://www.boardworld.com.au \| Online snowboard lessons, trick tips, product reviews, contests, and Australian snowboarding forums \| Facebook Fan Page

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AIRider Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 564	I tried a forward stance of +21/+6 the other day to try and see if it's easier to turn and it felt weird ... I'm happy at 18/-6 now ... __________________ Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.

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02-25-2011, 01:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
vivithemage Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 19	Power is what I find easy, it's ice/groomed I have a hard time, because there seems to be less support/cushion....I just cannot carve on the stuff.

02-25-2011, 01:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
dawalsh Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3	I'm a beginner too. I started with 12/-3, now I that ride better and start riding swith I change to 15/-9.

02-25-2011, 01:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
vivithemage Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 19	Thanks shred, will look all that info over. I have never had real training/teaching on how to board, just started doing it this year, but I feel I am pretty darn good...just not at carving on hard/packed snow. I want it to be fun, because that is most of Minnesota hills, haha. Is it common to have your angles at -? my feet are basically pointing outwards 15 in either direction, is that odd?

02-25-2011, 02:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
vivithemage Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 19	wow, that duck stance looks uncomfortable? I was thinking that having your feet point outwards is better, am I wrong in thinking this? Should they be facing inwards? I always feel unstable going to my heals, I always feel like I am going fall backwards, or cut an edge. When I go to my healside, I always do it fast, maybe that's myissue, slow down, get some speed, then continue the turn/carve to healside.