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rasmasyean 02-27-2011 06:52 PM

Why would my Switch BackSide-180 be much better than my Normal BackSide-180?
 
I believe I've practiced both the same amount, but for some reason, I've gotten the Switch BackSide-180 pretty much down, however, the Normal BackSide-180 seems to have me wash out and over-rotate a lot of the times. Even if I don't revert back to the normal direction, I tend to have to heel to feel balanced and then carve out to the side a bit rather than continue in a straight line.

Is this the usual progression most of you feel? What would be some of the causes? What should I look out for and try to correct?

Thanx! :)

ryannorthcott 02-27-2011 07:12 PM

i'm actually the same way, i don't really know why but it feels more natural to me.

init 02-27-2011 08:06 PM

Personally I think it's a lot easier to approach a jump switch than to land switch. This would explain the urge to go toe side and other problems post landing, but not overrotation :dunno: Just curious, are you guys goofy?

john doe 02-27-2011 08:25 PM

It is easier to land forward then it is to land switch.

david_z 02-27-2011 08:39 PM

a sw bs 180 you're landing in a normal forward stance. regular bs 180 you're more-than-likely landing fakie so you're not forward switch, but tail-heavy switch. That's why it feels harder to ride out & land it.

henry06x 02-27-2011 09:48 PM

I actually am more comfortable taking off regular and landing switch. I am just better at stopping my rotation that way. Probably caz I do them alot more and constantly when im goofing around on grooms. my switch I open up to much and my tail slides out. Its the same problem I have with my front 360.
Just keep doing them off shit all the time and try stopping the rotation and keep from opening up.

rasmasyean 02-28-2011 10:22 AM

I'm a Regular rider, but I wouldn't suspect that that matters?

But I guess it seems to be mixed as to "which way is easier", depending on how you ride a lot. In my case I might be landing "tail heavy switch" (I presume you mean "in the back seat" / "over-weighting the rear") and feel uncomfortable riding it out and thus heel as a natural reaction to stop.

david_z 02-28-2011 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rasmasyean (Post 382607)
I'm a Regular rider, but I wouldn't suspect that that matters?

No, that shouldn't really matter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rasmasyean (Post 382607)
... depending on how you ride a lot. In my case I might be landing "tail heavy switch" (I presume you mean "in the back seat" / "over-weighting the rear") and feel uncomfortable riding it out and thus heel as a natural reaction to stop.

yeah that's what I mean by "fakie" vs. "switch". It's a subtle difference. When you ride switch, you have a forward stance, it's just that you're opposite foot is in front. When you land (or if you were to ride fakie) you are not in a proper forward stance. The difference between switch & fakie is more obvious on a skateboard where foot position determines whether it's one or the other, but on the snowboard your feet are fixed, so it's balance & body position that determine whether you're in a forward stance or not.

mbesp 02-28-2011 10:49 AM

seems reasonable to assume landing regular is going to be easier for most people, especially landing blind.

rasmasyean 02-28-2011 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowolf (Post 382622)
This is super common. For one thing, any backside spin tends to naturally develop and maintain more rotational momentum and we simply need to tone things down just a skosh when we backside anything. Many riders, myself included, hesitate just a bit when we perform a switch spin and a switch backside seems to be the one that most people hard the most difficulty in getting enough rotation. This is consistent with your described experience. I would think if you just slowed things down a bit for your regular backside, you would solve the over rotation issue.

So basically, you're saying that when riding switch, because you are less comfortable, you don't generate as "powerful" of an initiation of anything. I guess this can apply to pop, ollies, and even turns.

Hence, in a case like mine, I happen to overpower my regular initiation even though I think I'm doing exactly the same thing switch.


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