Knees and Forward lean. - Snowboarding Forum

KIRKRIDER · 03-14-2011, 11:04 AM

I have been riding for 6 years now, mostly alone. A long time surfer/rider friend joined me...and observing my riding gave me two key advices. Best advices ever.

A little forward lean in your bindings help a lot reducing that back side carve chatter, and engage that front edge faster. I avoided it because it eats up your calves faster, but I'm a fan now. Better turns, more responsive board.

Tuck that back knee in, after the apex of your turn.He noticed my tendency to open my back kneee toward the tail of the board, when squatting in the middle of a turn, especially heel side...Probably for stability, mostly for bad habit. Even with both positive angles ( +18+12)

Tucking it IN instead, (as he suggested) toward the center/nose of the board made the tail follow the nose in a much more correct and efficent way, eliminating yet more chatter and making my heelside carve as good as my toeside one, Add stability and style.

And one more:
I waxed abundantly 2 days ago, but scraped less...( usually I would scrape until almost nothing comes off, leaving a thin, well spread layer of wax.)
This time I did just one strong passage (with a new scraper) leaving quite a bit of wax on the board... a nice even greasy layer that I conditioned with brush and cork. the board was FLYING on the windblown powder and on the slush-like frozen pow later. Best waxed base ever. So Scrape less, fly more.

PanHandler · 03-14-2011, 06:27 PM

scrape less? Uhm...naw dude.

wax should be IN your board, not ON it. Scrape that shit all the way off.

snowfiend · 03-14-2011, 06:37 PM

yeah it's probably just your imagination, the wax is supposed to be in the pores not on the surface

KIRKRIDER · 03-14-2011, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PanHandler

scrape less? Uhm...naw dude.

wax should be IN your board, not ON it. Scrape that shit all the way off.

Dude man..I'm a maniac of waxing. I have been for the past 4 years. I used to scrape the hell out of it. I don't know if the sintered just absorbs and wants more...but leaving the board much greasier than usual (and having those snow conditions) made me slip trough flats and mini - hills I ALWAYS was short a couple of pushes.

I zipped trough them yesterday.
I'm not saying you don't have to scrape. I Do lay once and press the hot wax twice.,.that leaves a very even layer to start with. ONE deep pass with a sharp scraper did it for me. Wax was still plenty and very well conditioned in and over the base.

KIRKRIDER · 03-14-2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by snowfiend

yeah it's probably just your imagination, the wax is supposed to be in the pores not on the surface

That could be too...and some vegetables readily available here in CA...But I'll stick with it. Greasy board for me

snowfiend · 03-14-2011, 06:47 PM

i mean if you feel good about it go for it its not like its doing any real harm

KIRKRIDER · 03-14-2011, 07:25 PM

I know...give it a try. How much do you scrape? I saw the Youtube video you posted about the cristian cunt...GAWD I want to kill her with my old board

bamfb2 · 03-20-2011, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pawlo

A little forward lean in your bindings help a lot reducing that back side carve chatter, and engage that front edge faster. I avoided it because it eats up your calves faster, but I'm a fan now. Better turns, more responsive board.

Are you talking about carving heel side? How do you get forward lean in your bindings that way? Trying to curl your toes upwards towards your shins? I understand the concept of forward lean in the bindings when carving toe side.

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Tuck that back knee in, after the apex of your turn.He noticed my tendency to open my back kneee toward the tail of the board, when squatting in the middle of a turn, especially heel side...Probably for stability, mostly for bad habit. Even with both positive angles ( +18+12)

The one caveat I can think of is if you have a really flexible board. If it's a super loose board, tucking that knee in too much can cause you to wash out.

BurtonAvenger · 03-21-2011, 02:15 AM

People wax? I gave up on that bullshit. Also forward lean is for people that can't bend their knees or are riding half pipe.

fattrav · 03-21-2011, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BurtonAvenger

People wax? I gave up on that bullshit. Also forward lean is for people that can't bend their knees or are riding half pipe.

Fuck! You are always one upping on something aren't you;

I dont wax
People send me new boards
My Mom died
Tall Tees are for gays
My knees sore
Forward lean's for trail slaves & pipe dicks

Look man, some people don't get to board everyday on a new board and roll through the park f'ward lean set to zero

03-14-2011, 11:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
KIRKRIDER Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 2,212	Knees and Forward lean. I have been riding for 6 years now, mostly alone. A long time surfer/rider friend joined me...and observing my riding gave me two key advices. Best advices ever. A little forward lean in your bindings help a lot reducing that back side carve chatter, and engage that front edge faster. I avoided it because it eats up your calves faster, but I'm a fan now. Better turns, more responsive board. Tuck that back knee in, after the apex of your turn.He noticed my tendency to open my back kneee toward the tail of the board, when squatting in the middle of a turn, especially heel side...Probably for stability, mostly for bad habit. Even with both positive angles ( +18+12) Tucking it IN instead, (as he suggested) toward the center/nose of the board made the tail follow the nose in a much more correct and efficent way, eliminating yet more chatter and making my heelside carve as good as my toeside one, Add stability and style. And one more: I waxed abundantly 2 days ago, but scraped less...( usually I would scrape until almost nothing comes off, leaving a thin, well spread layer of wax.) This time I did just one strong passage (with a new scraper) leaving quite a bit of wax on the board... a nice even greasy layer that I conditioned with brush and cork. the board was FLYING on the windblown powder and on the slush-like frozen pow later. Best waxed base ever. So Scrape less, fly more. __________________ 2012/13 -12- Kirkwood days Arbor A-Frame 158 2009-10 Jeremy Jones Hovercraft 156, 2011/12 Burton Driver-X K2-Cinch-CTX Subaru WRX 06

03-14-2011, 07:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
KIRKRIDER Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 2,212	I know...give it a try. How much do you scrape? I saw the Youtube video you posted about the cristian cunt...GAWD I want to kill her with my old board __________________ 2012/13 -12- Kirkwood days Arbor A-Frame 158 2009-10 Jeremy Jones Hovercraft 156, 2011/12 Burton Driver-X K2-Cinch-CTX Subaru WRX 06

03-21-2011, 02:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
BurtonAvenger Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mountains Posts: 8,058	People wax? I gave up on that bullshit. Also forward lean is for people that can't bend their knees or are riding half pipe. __________________ Angry Snowboarder Because someone has to call it how they see it!

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03-14-2011, 06:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
PanHandler Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Rathdrum, ID Posts: 587	scrape less? Uhm...naw dude. wax should be IN your board, not ON it. Scrape that shit all the way off.

03-14-2011, 06:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
snowfiend Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 139	yeah it's probably just your imagination, the wax is supposed to be in the pores not on the surface

03-14-2011, 06:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
snowfiend Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 139	i mean if you feel good about it go for it its not like its doing any real harm