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Steez 07-01-2011 04:58 PM

Doing a 180
 
Hey I'm going to practice 180s and build off that, I'm goofy.. What's easier to learn first frontside or backside,, and do you guys have any tips for me

uh oh a virus 07-01-2011 05:56 PM

Whenever you are going for a 180, always go frontside. It is just easier. You spin backside if you are going for big rotation like 540+ and frontside for 360- usually. For a tip, spin frontside and always counter rotate. Just wind up your arms, and once you hit the lip of the jump turn your hips to about a 20 degree angle or so for a little extra spin help, and whip your arms around for the 180. Just don't whip them too hard though. 180's are really easy and don't need pre-wind at all, they are really all in the hips, but what I just said is just an easy beginner way to learn.(sorry if this sounds horrible, I can't give tuts =p)

threej21 07-01-2011 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by uh oh a virus (Post 406417)
Whenever you are going for a 180, always go frontside. It is just easier. You spin backside if you are going for big rotation like 540+ and frontside for 360- usually.

disagree completely....a nice big, slow bs 180 is tits in my book! seen quite a few peeps go both ways on all spins...didnt realize there was a rule that you always go fs for 360s or 180s and bs for anything bigger :laugh:

Donutz 07-01-2011 07:00 PM

If you're at the point where you're starting to think about jumps and spins and such, look up the Snowboard Addiction videos. I bought them last year and they have made a big difference in understanding the mechanics of jumps and such.

You'll get lots of opinions from ppl on this forum (you just did!), and there are a lot of knowledgeable ppl here, but what you need is enough information to decide for yourself what makes sense.

I've been doing what virus says, based on the SA vids. It's important to understand the difference between rotated spins and counter-rotated spins. It's also important to know how you're supposed to land counter-rotated backside spins (you land looking uphill, which is not intuitive).

I know I sound like a shill for the videos, but when I find something that I like, I figure I should pass it on.

ShredLife 07-01-2011 07:54 PM

there are no "rotated or counter-rotated" spins in snowboarding. its frontside and backside. we already had the Tony Hawk generation come along and fuck up the naming of FS and BS sliding so lets not go down that path with spinning. you spin frontside or you spin backside.

one may be easier feeling for YOU but spinning both directions is different for different people. when i was learning to land switch it was easier for me to spin backside and land looking up hill because i tended to wash out my heelside edge on FS 180s

potato potato tomato tomato.


if you wanna do a 180: bend your knees, wait till youre almost off the lip and turn your shoulders. your legs should follow.

alaric 07-01-2011 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ShredLife (Post 406429)
if you wanna do a 180: bend your knees, wait till youre almost off the lip and turn your shoulders. your legs should follow.

best advice given. just do it.

slyder 07-01-2011 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ShredLife (Post 406429)
there are no "rotated or counter-rotated" spins in snowboarding. its frontside and backside.

Don't agree with this.
one uses a rotation of your entire body, the other uses arms rotating against the legs or hips to stop the rotation.

To Steez's question. I also ride goofy and I think a front 180 is easiest to start. It is a smaller rotation and can be done off flat ground or off a jump or small hill/side hit. I hope your switch riding is good since you will be landing regular to ride off.
Practice in your garage, bedroom, basement just jumping the motion. I still do this quite often. You can then add your board and try jumping it, just lay a blanket, mat or carboard down or do it on the grass to get the feel of the added drag of your board and boots.

Like Donutz I also bought SA's videos and absolutely love them. I feel for me they have been a great teaching tool. Many members have also pointed me into the right direction when I asked for advice or evaluation on my form.

When you do this on the hill or are looking for more input remember to add a video it is so much easier to critique and give advice after seeing you actually perform the move. I got blasted for some bad straight airs videos I posted, but it was all true and helped me to correct my bad form early.

Good luck and have fun
-Slyder

ShredLife 07-01-2011 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by slyder (Post 406444)
Don't agree with this.

it doesn't matter if you agree or not. we're talking about terminology here and there is a right and wrong answer. you can spin frontside, you can spin backside.

if you need to counter-rotate your body so that you can rotate (wind up so you can spin) then that's fine, you're like everyone else on the planet who's bound by physics - but don't go fucking with snowboarding terminology - fuck!

slyder 07-01-2011 11:37 PM

Don't you use counter rotation for landing on boxes?? I know it may be per the trick you are performing. But if you didn't, sorry if using wrong terms, rotate your arms the opposite way how do you stop the spin. Especially when on boxes??

Wolf I think it just clicked correct me if I'm wrong. No matter what it is a FS/BS spin it's just that on some tricks you want your upper body to spin in the opposite direction to stop the spin/rotation of your lower body.
I'll still probably use these terms and may be wrong but it is what I can visualize and understand easier, sorry....

Shred, I'm still trying to understand all this myself. I never skateboarded and when I skied this type of riding wasn't around.

ShredLife 07-02-2011 12:26 AM

well, naming the directions of boardslides used to make sense before these goddamn kids started thinking skateboarding and snowboarding are "cool".

goddamn kids..


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