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Old 11-06-2011, 12:34 PM   #11 (permalink)
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i love this thread, this is what this forum is all about! someone asked a real question, and look, nothing but helpful knowledgeable answers, an entire page full in two hours.

It might be the weight, but i think it is a skill issue... (my example) from a dead stop,going after strapping in at the top of a cat track (no carves needed on a cat track so it takes skill level out of the equation) i will ALWAYS be at least 40 yards in front of my friend who is about the same skill level, on the same type of board, with usually the same amount of wax, but he is around 30 lbs lighter. There is just no way for him to catch me unless i slowed down on my own, and even then once we are at the same pace, i still always pull ahead. Once we actually hit the runs though it is pretty even, because we both are at the same skill level, are comfortable at the same speed and can achieve that speed the same. So i think you have to get better at either carving more on edge (leaving a pencil line in the snow) and not scraping so much, or just do half as many scrapes. Basically bomb more and get better at riding faster to make up for any of the little things holding you back, i.e wax, weight, board type.
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Old 11-06-2011, 12:52 PM   #12 (permalink)
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You can learn to pump a snowboard to go faster then just gravity will take you. It is hard though. Like this but on a snowboard. Beachside Longboard Pumping - YouTube
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Old 11-06-2011, 01:25 PM   #13 (permalink)
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^ That too.
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Old 11-06-2011, 02:09 PM   #14 (permalink)
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You can learn to pump a snowboard to go faster then just gravity will take you. It is hard though. Like this but on a snowboard. Beachside Longboard Pumping - YouTube
Depends though, you can get some pretty ugly habits going on with that stuff. There was a guy we used to surf with that got the nickname 'flapper' because he used to flap/pump so much riding small waves that it would slow him down rather than speed him up... and it looked bad.

Someone said it before, riding 'quiet' and smooth can make you go faster too. Like in the flats, sometimes the last thing you want to do is make aggressive movements
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Old 11-06-2011, 06:11 PM   #15 (permalink)
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You can learn to pump a snowboard to go faster then just gravity will take you. It is hard though. Like this but on a snowboard. Beachside Longboard Pumping - YouTube
I have never tried it, but i doubt pumping a snowboard would really help. Flat base, minimal edge time, and weight seem like the best things to me. Sure, you can accelerate out of a turn if done right, but you are just making up for the slow down into the turn.

On a longboard, pumping works so well because of a few factors. When you throw your weight over the wheels, they compress. When you shift your weight off them, the board starts a turn, and the wheels uncompress making it accelerate. You also tend to have to move a lot of your weight to the front to get a good pump up hill (at least i do).

Now i am not saying pumping on a snowboard doesn't work, i just don't see how it would.
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Old 11-06-2011, 06:18 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Pumping can help but it has to be at the right time, but OP you and me are in the exact same boat. I just learned to not connect as many turns to keep up and beat them at times...
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Trip them before they get the chance to pass you.

You can only really pump when there is a sudden slope drop. It's like when you pump the landing of a jump the get more speed for the next jump. It sounds like to me though that you need to make less turns. DO NOT do this until you are ready and feel comfortable doing this though. I've fallen bombing a hill and got knocked out, lost memory of the biggest powder in Stowe resort history and my only boarding trip. Not worth it man. Once you get good enough to bomb then pumping can help. Just keep riding and getting comfortable going fast and you'll be killing everyone. I promise.
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Just point the tip of your board down the mountain and just stand still. you'll pass your friends with flying colors.
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Just point the tip of your board down the mountain and just stand still. you'll pass your friends with flying colors.
make sure you film this one I see epic wipe out coming
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He'll probably add to the collection of missing chunks on wall of lodge that were caused by run-away snowboards. This time the board won't be running away
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