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Old 11-28-2011, 06:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Finally... I finally got my first 2 days of the season in. Made a trip up to Minn and luckily they had 2 runs open. It wasn't perfect conditions but it was worth going out. Day 1 was nice, soft snow...almost felt like spring conditions. Overnight it froze so day 2 was iced over and pretty garbage.

That brings me to my question. This will be my 2nd (serious) season of riding. I've got years of skateboarding/wakeboarding under my belt and am pretty confident in my balance. My question is, what can I do to make riding on ice feel more comfortable? I stay on my edges as much as possible, but it still doesn't feel ideal.

Right now I'm riding duck at 15's and my highbacks are completely vertical. Would it help to notch them forward and force me to bend my knees more? My friends will zoom down the icy runs but I just don't feel confident that I won't catch an edge. I often find myself standing straight when I should be bent at the knee's/hips.

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It's reassuring to know I handled it as I should of. I didn't wipe out or catch an edge, which was my biggest concern. It certainly didn't help that I was on my pure camber stick. I appreciated the stability in my turns, but transitions caused...well

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A whole lot of that. Would rocker make any difference or are the crappy conditions omnipotent? I'm hoping to not have to deal with a ton more days like that, but I did appreciate the early season wake up call.

I think my biggest problems is the fear. I had a really bad wipeout on conditions like these last year. It was only my 3rd or 4th time out and I didn't know to slow down my turns.

Appreciate the sagely advice.
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Nefarious...I don't mean to use your string as an a$$ kissing tool but I just had to say something real quick...I LOVE THAT SNOWWOLF! (no homo) I appreciate your attention to each thread and the fact that you will continuously thread after thread lend some of your veteran knowledge and try to help us guys just trying to get down the mountain in one piece...I spent an hour watching all your training videos and although I've had a 1 hr instruction on a mountain top...I feel as if I learned so much more through your videos. I look forward to getting on the mountain this year and working on my toe side edge as I am one of those that is petrified of it..but back to what I was saying...thanks for being part of this community and I'll continue to visit these boards as long as there are great contributers like yourself. Thanks again for letting me use your thread for this happy rant/a$$ kissing session Nefarious
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I get it, as do many here. Many of us need help once in awhile. Whether it's a small question or a big problem.

There are people here we are knowledgeable about gear, some that are fantastic at teaching, and some that will help light a fire under your ass to try something that you've been afraid of. It's the mash up of so many great personalities that make this place great.

Last year around this time a woman in her 50's I believe started snowboarding and actively participating in this forum. Vicki is her name, I believe. I'm not sure if she still actively posts, but I know Wolfie went back and forth with her for weeks working on technique and pointers. Never with the slightest hint of agitation or foul mood.

Hijack my threads whenever you want. I sure as shit do the same thing to people all the time with only half the concern.
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I get it, as do many here. Many of us need help once in awhile. Whether it's a small question or a big problem.

There are people here we are knowledgeable about gear, some that are fantastic at teaching, and some that will help light a fire under your ass to try something that you've been afraid of. It's the mash up of so many great personalities that make this place great.

Last year around this time a woman in her 50's I believe started snowboarding and actively participating in this forum. Vicki is her name, I believe. I'm not sure if she still actively posts, but I know Wolfie went back and forth with her for weeks working on technique and pointers. Never with the slightest hint of agitation or foul mood.

Hijack my threads whenever you want. I sure as shit do the same thing to people all the time with only half the concern.
if you are talking about vic styles, that gurl's got some swagger!
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It's reassuring to know I handled it as I should of. I didn't wipe out or catch an edge, which was my biggest concern. It certainly didn't help that I was on my pure camber stick. I appreciated the stability in my turns, but transitions caused...well



A whole lot of that. Would rocker make any difference or are the crappy conditions omnipotent? I'm hoping to not have to deal with a ton more days like that, but I did appreciate the early season wake up call.

I think my biggest problems is the fear. I had a really bad wipeout on conditions like these last year. It was only my 3rd or 4th time out and I didn't know to slow down my turns.

Appreciate the sagely advice.
Speaking from a downhill mountain biking perspective, slowing down is the last thing you wanna do on something steep and/or slippery. Just gotta let it go man!
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Finally... I finally got my first 2 days of the season in. Made a trip up to Minn and luckily they had 2 runs open. It wasn't perfect conditions but it was worth going out. Day 1 was nice, soft snow...almost felt like spring conditions. Overnight it froze so day 2 was iced over and pretty garbage.

That brings me to my question. This will be my 2nd (serious) season of riding. I've got years of skateboarding/wakeboarding under my belt and am pretty confident in my balance. My question is, what can I do to make riding on ice feel more comfortable? I stay on my edges as much as possible, but it still doesn't feel ideal.

Right now I'm riding duck at 15's and my highbacks are completely vertical. Would it help to notch them forward and force me to bend my knees more? My friends will zoom down the icy runs but I just don't feel confident that I won't catch an edge. I often find myself standing straight when I should be bent at the knee's/hips.

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Protective gloves or wrist guards are a good idea too.
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Speaking from a downhill mountain biking perspective, slowing down is the last thing you wanna do on something steep and/or slippery. Just gotta let it go man!
i am only speaking for myself here, but that is the worst thing you can possibly do...depending on what is at the bottom of the hill.
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Like Snowolf said, experience is the most important thing. Getting out there and riding on ice for a day will teach you more than even hundreds of people on here trying to explain what to do.
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Like Snowolf said, experience is the most important thing. Getting out there and riding on ice for a day will teach you more than even hundreds of people on here trying to explain what to do.
So no use having a forum then huh? Sorry, had to be said.

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