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Old 12-06-2011, 08:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I have taught many people how to ride a snowboard.(no really little kids or anything like that though) i find the best way to teach is this.

1. Have them go down the bunny hill on the heels the whole time. ( have them get the feel of how much to raise there toes. and control speed and learn to stop. then have them kinda drop one foot a bit down so they can learn to go back and forth acrossed the hill on their heels.
2. same as one but now learn it all on their toes.
3. teach them how to whip their back end around and lift on their toes at the same time. (to go the the stop position)(do this first on a flat surface and then while going down the hill.)
4. same as 3 but now learn it on their toes.
5. Then teach them how to whip the back end just a little this time. and hold an edge to carve.
6. Now show them how to put it all together, toes to heels (carving) and stopping at the END!

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Old 12-06-2011, 10:51 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Something to keep in mind as well, watch how you speak to your brother. I've found my students to be WAY more successful when someone says, "That was good. I noticed you were doing this though, so you should try this next time." Or something like that.
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Old 12-07-2011, 12:14 AM   #13 (permalink)
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One of the things that stopped me from falling when first learning was how to stop properly. You can give a vague idea about how to carve, but I would say it's more of a feeling for each person and this part comes naturally. If a new rider can stop confidently on any slope, they'll feel confident about letting go of the board and balancing themselves to descend the mtn. A tendency of new snowboarders is to 'make themselves' fall because they think they'll completely lose control with all this new speed. That's why I mention that if your bro learns only one skill, how to stop heel or toeside, he will have the confidence to let the board go and the carving will come naturally. -I speak from my own perspective here because I found EVERYTHING with my progression in snowboarding has to do with mental, not physical.

Your front foot directs the boards path and the rear foot works as the ships router. So, from this the new rider understands that if I want to stop, I simply put pressure down into the snow with my rear leg and I'll stop. So as someone else said, encouragement, mostly to instill confidence and make them feel okay with building up speed. Carving, jumping, jibbing, dropping and pretty much everything to do with the ski hill has to do with speed. Learning to come to a full stop is the most important aspect for me because it teaches you the pressure points of resistance of the board to the snow surface at all angles of carving. If you can balance stopping smoothly, you can carve up any run.

For edge control, even to this day, I still try to balance on the heel and toe side of the board. Maybe get him to do this and practice a few ollies to get comfortable and confident on the board before you even go downhill.

For me that confidence came after a day that my local hill got dumped on. I no longer feared falling and I essentially started tearing up the mountain from that day. Just trying to say that snowboarding is easy - beating down the fear of the worst case scenario may be a new riders worst obstacle.
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Old 12-07-2011, 12:52 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by wrathfuldeity View Post
First teach him how to fall, get him drunk, strap on helmet, take to the gnarliest run and push him down the hill.
Add mushrooms and a blizzard to the equation and that's pretty much how I learned.
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Old 12-07-2011, 01:16 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by boarderaholic View Post
Something to keep in mind as well, watch how you speak to your brother. I've found my students to be WAY more successful when someone says, "That was good. I noticed you were doing this though, so you should try this next time." Or something like that.
Good point. Anytime I teach someone I try to provide as much positive reinforcement as possible too. Gotta remember that you're going to be teaching someone who is going to have a lot of falls and probably going to get a bit frustrated. I'll usually high-5 whomever I'm teaching if they make it off the lift without falling, make their first turn, etc. It can really help lighten things up, show them that they are progressing, and make it more fun for them when they are spending a lot of time on the snow. You know, remind them before you even strap in that learning this isn't going to happen immediately. That we were all beginners at some point so every person they see riding at high speeds started out just like you.

Also, which we all know, is that the new rider needs to learn how to fall, especially during the first few days make sure they aren't trying to catch themselves with their hands (wrists). Nothing is going to deter someone from the sport more than being injured the first few times they go riding.
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Old 12-07-2011, 01:36 AM   #16 (permalink)
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This isn't a joke.
What if you had him wear a belt with one of those retractable dog leashes.
You could control his speed, as long as you kept just a little bit of constant resistance. I think he'd get used to it quick. But you have to realize you could make it impossible for him or kill him, so you can't fuck him up.

or grab a bamboo pole. Find a cutie, and have the two good people on the ends & little bro in the middle.
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Old 12-07-2011, 01:42 AM   #17 (permalink)
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definitely keep things positive on the mountain.
I usually like to set expectations and figure out what they are envisioning how their first day is going to go. I find I like to have them visualize that it is going to be rough, painful, and frustrating. It is not easy, even though we all make it look easy. But if you can stick to it for a few days, it can give you a feeling and a freedom that cannot be found anywhere else in their lives. Get them the proper equipment to minimize the first few days of damage. Helmet, wrist guards, knee pads, impact shorts. seems like a bunch of stuff but I have found that it really helps, especially for girls to have as much padding as possible for those first few days. Once on the mountain, do what everybody else above has said.
I did lessons for a few years, and I can't tell you how many kids I had that quit within 2 hours because they had the expectation that it was going to be easy, then they just got pissed when they couldn't do it. so I adapted the "this is gonna suck" approach and it seemed to work as it made it more of a challenge instead of something they thought they could just do right away.
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Old 12-07-2011, 02:55 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by wrathfuldeity View Post
First teach him how to fall, get him drunk, strap on helmet, take to the gnarliest run and push him down the hill.

Lots of great advice in here, thanks a bunch, all this will help me help him. When it comes to teaching I'm a very patient person, and the tips on positive reinforcement are noted. I taught him to ride wake 6 years ago, and that was more difficult in some ways. With wake you can't be right there so everything is explained on the boat/shore, and critiqued after the ride. With snow I can be right there and correct anything on the spot, but there is a lot more to SBing.

To give a better picture, first of all my "little" brother is 40 Y/O 6'2" 250lbs, my local hill is pretty much ALL a bunny slope lol. He's kind of a head strong, jump in with both feet type person, so I'm going to have a problem keeping him on the flats to get solid fundamentals. All the pads n junk isn't a possibility at all, but I will encourage him to rent a helmet. I have a game plan in my mind, have to see how that goes, if he doesn't want to listen....well then I will resort to wrathfuldeity's advice

I do have a question, looking back to when I learned the rental shop put me on a 155, once in Monarch and again the next year in Breck. Is it easier to learn on a shorter board? I ride a 163, the first couple times I rode it was kind of awkward, and I had to work more on perfecting my technique. Thanks again for the tips, I can't believe how excited I am to go ride a mole hill in Iowa
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Old 12-07-2011, 02:56 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Explain basic body and board movements, demonstrate, and positive reinforcement for things done right even if they are small things.
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Old 12-07-2011, 09:14 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Was only joking because of you being brothers...ya know you (brother) can't tell me shit...being a big patroller and all. I figure at some point beer and pain will be predose the beer to help lessen the pain, have a good laugh and have stories to tell. However Snowolf does have a good point.

Btw, on the ride up the chair, I point out folks with good form verses bad form and explain keep your body parts inside the cereal box and steer with your front knee, align your shoulders and stack ankles, hips and shoulders.

Good luck and have fun...take some pictures.

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