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Old 12-08-2011, 10:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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To be honest, with as long as I've been riding this is a little embarrassing to ask. I've always been a more all-mountain/freestyle rider and never really got into the park. Last year I started dabbling, a run or two per trip out would be through the beginner park. All the features in the beginner park are either ride-on or a very small gap no more than 12 inches. WIth some tips, I was riding boxes and rails doing board slides and 50/50's by the end of the year. Not entirely comfortable doing it, it still feels very awkward, but I was able to at least not fall.

When I take a lap through the big park at my local place, several of the features are something I'd feel comfortable trying except... the gaps seem HUGE to me. I know part of this is just mental on my part, I'm psyched-out by the gap and don't hit the feature. The other part of it is... I simply don't know how I'm supposed to handle the transition and gap. Do I need to just ride straight at it and the angle of transition/lip along with speed will carry me over the gap no problem? Or do I need to jump up to clear the gap and land on the feature?

So... really any suggestions here on technique and the mental side of it?

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Old 12-08-2011, 10:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I need to just ride straight at it and the angle of transition/lip along with speed will carry me over the gap no problem.
Most features that have a gap are still ride on. Watch the feature though. If everyone is jumping onto it... you should probably do the same.

How to jump... wait till Snowolf or someone else chimes in, lol.
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:57 AM   #3 (permalink)
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My advice would be to master the little park first, so its almost like doing it with you eyes closed. Although it will be intimidating learning bigger features no matter what it doesn't sounds like you are comfortable enough yet.

But hey, if you're ready then just watch some people first. Ride in with enough speed, confidence and commit to that trick! I always do my best riding when I feel like the board is a part of me y'know?

We cant really tell you a certain angle to take off for a feature we dont know what it looks like, I would just watch others.

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Old 12-08-2011, 11:21 AM   #4 (permalink)
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the most important thing here is gonna be your speed, then popping off the lip and then your balance landing on the feature.

watch others hit it to gauge speed and see if they pop or "jump" off the ramp

your balance comes from your post pop stability, try doing jumps that are similar size and get very calm and stable in the air, not flailing your arms or spinning sideways.

pop off the lip of the jump then bring your knees back up a little bit and keep your shoulders pointed straight down hill.

also you can hit the smaller features with more speed and practice landing on them rather than just riding on.
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And remember to stay loose and bouncy on your legs. Landing stiff and too tall leads to disaster.
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Old 12-08-2011, 01:15 PM   #6 (permalink)
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It's always a good idea to pop a little off the lip just to make sure you clear the front of the rail/box. I've seen it way too many times that someone will come up short and take a hit to the leg or something from not getting the nose of the board over the rail/box.

Look at it like this, you don't need to land on the beginning point of the feature. That being said, if you're not comfortable jumping and landing flat based, I wouldn't go to the big park yet. This can still be practiced in a progression park if you don't feel ready. Try this on a small feature at first and have a friend spot you and tell you how far down the feature you're landing.

GreatScotts advice is spot on too, you need to be able to adjust body and board, you can't do that stiff legged or tensed up
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Old 12-08-2011, 01:19 PM   #7 (permalink)
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So I do agree, I need to be more comfortable in the beginner park's features before tackling larger and more advanced areas. In our main park, there are a few features that are very close to the beginner's park features but the difference is mostly the approach/jump and gap. My goal this year is to work up to those features and hopefully beyond that level. I'll be starting again tho' in the beginner's park.

It seems on some of the features in the main park that I'm referring to that each rider approaches them differently, some just jump others ollie and others make it seem like just a seamless ride-on. Perhaps I'm over-thinking it and it is just a lack of confidence and intimidation. Visions of the nose of my board not clearing the feature and my broken leg dance in my head! Haha.

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Old 12-08-2011, 01:29 PM   #8 (permalink)
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There are two kinds of rail ramps

Street style


Ride on rails




if its a street style rail you have to approach it from the side and jump up to it.....if its a ride on rail you should be fine to just ride straight up to it and ride on, or maybe add a little hop.... usually if there is a gap on the ride on you really need to just worry about speed and the ramp up to it should be dialed in to put you on the rail.... just dont go too slow!
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Old 12-08-2011, 01:54 PM   #9 (permalink)
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If it's a straight on feature with a small gap, just hit it with enough speed and you'll be fine. Check the approach to make sure it's good, because if it's been ridden out and needs to be raked, it could catch your nose and you'll eat shit and could possibly seriously damage your board. If not, you really just have to carry some decent speed and commit. Ride through the feature, not on it. Then once you 50-50 a few times start to style it out.

Some features are street style or you could pole jam them to some extent. Do those last.
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Old 12-08-2011, 02:18 PM   #10 (permalink)
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What type of gap are we talking about? A standard ramp with a couple feet of gap? If that's the case, hit it just like a ride on feature. Just be confident, carry a decent amount of speed, and you won't even notice the gap.

Or are you talking bigger stuff? I ain't playing with any of that stuff that's like 10 foot gaps onto boxes or rails. No thank you. I don't play in the park much and that shit looks like a season ender to my non-park riding ass.
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